【重温经典: Ryan Price在的节目】RoundTable 文本整理 20170613 不会拼英语单词？别急，老外也不会！
小和尚念经:
最近Round Table 都在播放国庆期间录制的类似纪录片的音频，我没怎么听。很是怀念Round Table鼎盛时期的节目(个人认为Ryan在的时候是鼎盛时期，浑身自带正能量，是个货真价实的小太阳)，遂在网上收罗他还在的几个音频，准备发几期文本，让各位新的RT朋友了解下曾经的RT。
曾经RT的节目质量非常高的，根本不会I mean, it's like等等这么多停顿词，内容也很充实，很多外国朋友都有在听，他们也会在Heart to Heart(你的心声我在听)环节中提问。
曾经RT和观众的互动也是非常好的，记得每一期都会公布打卡环节(Throne争夺战)的结果，如果哪位听众能在一个星期内连续打卡第一名，将会获得Round Table特制的包包。
来一张Ryan的帅照压压惊（来自CRI Round Table，侵删）
以前节目开始的时候，主持人Heyang是这么介绍嘉宾RyanPrice的
Hello everybody, welcome to Round Table, coming to you live from Beijing, I'm your host Heyang, joined by the man whose licence has just been suspended, for driving all the ladiescrazy, Mr. Ryan price.
足以见得，Ryan在广大女性心目中的地位。
正经:
这一期词汇难度还好 1. Scripps National Spelling Bee:这个就是美国举行的全国范围内的单词拼写大赛，要求15岁以下，并且最高不超过8年级，相当于我们的初中，拼写大赛始于1852年。参赛的选手，除了来自本土的，还吸引加拿大，新西兰，甚至亚洲的国家(我试下可否在另外的文章里上传视频)
2.Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious: 这个词，大家基本上不认识，就是超级长字的意思，映射这一期的主题，还有一个欢乐满人间的意思 3. Atrocious: adj, 形容人的时候是残暴不仁，残忍，凶恶的意思；形容物表示极差的 原句: Also, I can tell you my handwriting is atrocious, OK. 4.Day in day out life Day in day out 是日出而作日落而息的日复一日，年复一年的感觉，所以是日常生活 原句: I think it's really hard to get through your day in day out life in being a literate human being and not know how to spell “people” yet.
5. Crutch: 名词是拐杖，动词是支撑的意思;还有一个长得非常像的单词Crotch是裤裆,人体的胯部的意思。如何区分？Crotch是o, Crutch是u, Crotch被人踢一脚，肯定oo狂叫 原文: And then, yes, you use technology as your crutch and you will use it to write and you don't even need to.. 6.Readily: 轻而易举地，欣然地, Accept readily 欣然地接受，原文是轻而易举地意思 原文: When you have technology that's readily available, and now we can't even spell our own language 7.Arbitrary: adj, 任意的，武断的，专横的，随心所欲的 原文: I think we're trying to make the arbitrary stuff in our day in day out life go away so that we can actually focus on other things// 我在想，Ryan这里是否想表达随机的，不重要的东西，是否Random更好？ 8. Encyclopedia: 百科全书，维基百科就是Wiki Encyclopedia 忽然想到万花筒的单词Kaleidoscope,背单词的时候可以天马行空些, 将单词联系起来 原文: Go through a whole book to find that little piece of information and encyclopedia that's useful for your paper and doing that for 20 sources to write your thesis.
9. Chime in: To add a comment to the discussion, 就是发表意见，其中Chime动词是鸣，敲，报时；名词是钟声。 原文: Yes and we have our listeners, all chiming in and yes, we'd love to know what you think about
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【20170613 - 不会拼英语单词？别急，老外也不会！文本】
Heyang: Can you spell... Ok, this is a hard one, Sauerkraut without looking, how about Chihuahua or perhaps pneumonia. if spelling these words trips you up, don't worry, you are not alone. Google recently released a map of words--residence of each state in the United States tend to have the hardest time spelling. This project is in honor of the American National Spelling Bee. Yes, so let's talk about this map.
Ryan: Yes, so data was polled from the most often searched word in each state. OK, so the query went like this. and if you're having trouble understanding me, I'm trying to do the uneducated country, Bumpkin American, hope I nailed it anyways. So these quarries basically Google released in each state the word that was prefaced by how to spell. so you know it had how to spell and then blank what was most common in each state in 2017. OK, this is for the Nineteenth Scripps National Spelling Bee, which has spelling champs from across the nation, compete for the forty thousand cash prize. I get trips to New York, Los Angeles, and engraved trophy even, but basically Google, You know, Google, when they published this, it was kind of embarrassing I think, for a lot of states, because some of these words were pretty easy. Let's go through some of these, so maybe if you lived in Georgia, you couldn't spell grey, all right?
Heyang: Grey, as in the color grey?
Ryan: Yeah, Grey, all right, If you lived in Washington, you couldn't spell pneumonia, which actually you know, I'm not going to be hard on Washington, that one sounds very different from how it spelled. If you're in Connecticut, you’re an Uber nerd. You're like how to spell Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, which is just a super long word. So if you don't know what that because we had listener say what is that? I don't know actually, but it is a word that was popularized in one of the Mary Poppins songs. You know, so ask her. Anyways, other words were, I guess some states couldn't spell tomorrow or hallelujah, and one of the ones that I think is most embarrassing, if you ask me, is Wisconsin guys, you couldn't even spell your state's name, but okay, so everybody's probably having a good chuckle and like Hahaha, America's filled with a country of people that don't know their own language. No. first of all, this data was just queried from a search engine. You always know, search engines have a huge general purpose of use, and I think what I'm going to come from on this is that adult Americans do know how to spell; that these words you'll find are often of difficulty that is maybe from different education systems that are in the U.S. and that these words are being searched by maybe kids, little kids in school because I think now kids are so dependent on technology much more than even my generation. It's second nature. I had a cell phone but and not till I was like in high school. You know these kids, they're starting out with smartphones, you know, so I think they're little tech wizards that they don't need to learn. It's not necessary for them any more to learn how to spell like we did that much deal.
Heyang: Yes, are there any spelling difficulties that you found in this list Huangshan?
Huangshan: Yeah, I have some problems with... I remember like I was so surprised to see some word that American people can't spell right, like in California and New York State, they cant like spell beautiful in a right way. That's to my surprise.
Ryan: Right. Well, I think you know from the American education system, or at least how I was learned, more often than not, you can get really close to spelling that word if you just sound it out, but also, depending on what state you're in, the sound or how it said, is different right? But like let's take “liar”, OK, So liar, Rhode Island has troubles spelling liar. But like I said, I think these are kids in Rhode Island, and they're probably like, Well, I know how to spell lie, L, i, e, Lie, but then all the sudden you add the R and you change the word from an E to an A. So it's L,i,a,r. These kinds of changes you know also lets say like tomorrow, I think little kids in Colorado. They may be just learned that when a consonant is sandwiched by two vowels, many times, you double the consonant right. So the R in tomorrow and Arizona also has the same problem. The R is doubled, right? but the M isn't, why is the R doubled and the M isn't? Why did they do that with that word? You know English, sometimes I think there's no literal rhyme or reason to how things are spelled. It's just a game of memorizing. And nowadays you know kids they don't need to memorize as much because they're probably going to school with smartphones. And I would say that any adult, at least from a generation like mine, you know, we had to learn how to spell, because we didn't have this kind of technology, mobile with us everyday everywhere we go, so we weren't necessarily always relying on it. We had to know how to spell it because we didn't have cellphones. Now these kids do, so it's like it's a tale as oldest time. Maybe in previous generations, before calculators got fancy, people could do their times table in double digits, right? But now I think most people, especially in our generation, They have trouble doing any kind of multiplication table over double digits right? same with dividing. Also, I can tell you my handwriting is atrocious, OK, but that's because maybe in middle school, even sooner, computers started to become second nature in our education elementary school. So teachers knew the future was not handwriting, but a standardized print that was only given by computers, and even typewriters were the precursor to this. So I think you'll notice these kinds of problems. It's just not necessary anymore to memorize these words.
Heyang: Well, that was quite a speech, and I think you explain it quite well. (Thank you) you're welcome. So don't ask me how to spell Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious) Blame it on technology, Knowledges have made our spelling ability diminish and also made us...
Ryan: Well, is that the same with Chinese?
Heyang: Well, I think, to some extent, maybe it’s true and also just to get back to the map. Yeah, one second, Ryan, I think the part that I would agree with you is that maybe this is kids typing in the question is, this is according to one search that starts with how to spell, and then the word so actually it's a person cautiously putting in that search, I think if it was a different kind of ...
Ryan: Yeah, have a look at the variety of words, you have tomorrow, and then you have Chihuahua. Why is South Carolina having problem spelling a word that's very unnecessary. You've got to look at the signs here. it's a Google, its Google and its being queried tons of times, and I think these kids if they had maybe during while they're in class, of course, they’re gonna have their phones right? So I think, maybe the people that are asking Google how to spell are the ones that aren't right in front of a computer like the rest of us, that are maybe trying to type in these weird words during a test or something like that. So I think this doesn't necessarily come close. I mean, like OK, so Hawaii, right? according to you then, why doesn't know how to spell people? I think it's really hard to get through your day in day out life in being a literate human being and not know how to spell “people” yet. So I would say this is definitely more often than not, Heyang, little kids, especially supercalifragilisticexpeditious. Why are adults looking up? How to spell that? It's not a word of utility.
Heyang: That's a good point, but also Google has, you know, data of a wide range of all different kinds of ages and people I would imagine, but we don't have the detail breakdown to that. so I think, actually Ryan. You asked me about the Chinese situation, and I think that is actually, If this can be applied across the board, then I would not be surprised that adults are writing or spelling worse than kids or students, because when you are an adult, you don’t need to pass tests that ask you to do dictation, to ask you to spell the words correctly in English, or write the characters correctly in Chinese. And then, yes, you use technology as your crutch and you will use it to write and you don't even need to.. There's all of auto correction that you don't even need to check, so when you don't need to pass tests and you don't have that kind of pressure, then yes, I rely on technology. But when you are in school, you probably had to make the effort to remember how to write.
Ryan: when we were in school. But I think this new generation, we’re seeing their savvy with technology like we maybe never were at that age.
Huangshan: I think for me, I face this same situation because when I was in a high school, primary school, I rely heavily on handwriting, we need to take the test and write articles and handwritings. But now we do all the job by computer and if we want to send messages, we use mobile phones. They all have the auto like pronouncing, no, the auto like check system and function so you don’t need to make sure every character you write is right or not, they can help you to do that.
Ryan: Yeah, you know, and I think I think we could also even say you know adults really forget as well. I mean, if they focuse on it, then they could really probably spell it. But I don't think in your day out when you actually day in day out work as an American maybe, when you're typing, you always wanna use spell check, there's not a time probably when any American isn't having spell check be a part of when they type a document, right? because I don't think too many people don't make mistakes in their writing, you know, but spell check technology allows us to make that perfect document with even grammar. So, you know, I think everybody is dependent on technology, because imagine if I said, Heyang for 80% of you know, blah blah blah. You're great or I'm going to publish what you write. You'd probably feel really weird if I said, and you can't use spell check, you'd be like, Oh, my God, where are my mistakes? Suddenly you realize how dependent on technology you were even if you can spell most of the words, you'll still feel this inside fear of oh my god, spell check is not there, because it's always the check that we need that where you’re comfortable with when you write something.
Heyang: So yes, right Ryan, so we are so reliable.. we’re so relying on technology these days, and when you were just talking about typing on a computer, I was thinking about back in the old days when writers had and journalists had to type on a typewriter, then you had to pretty much make sure that every word is spelled correct, otherwise you waste a whole page of work pretty much. Yeah, but long gone of those days, and I guess it's a really good thing, but also isn't it making our students dumber in a way as it is, I think this is not one problem that one country faces. I think it is all to the world. Yes, when you have technology that's readily available, and now we can't even spell our own language, can’t even write in our own language correctly.
Ryan: I think it's it's building a foundation that we don't need to memorize, maybe information. That's why we have technology to make sure we can start memorizing other stuff. It allows us to say okay, we don't need to worry about this stuff anymore, because now we've created a system or a kind of technology, so this doesn't have to be what we spend our brain cells memorising and in doing, you know, I think we're trying to make the arbitrary stuff in our day in day out life go away so that we can actually focus on other things, because maybe there's a different side to this story. If we were so focused and we didn't have all the free time that is actually given to you by things like calculators and computers and mobiles and spelling checks, you know, we would realize that a lot of..things would take a lot more time, maybe we wouldn't get as much done, this kind of things.
Heyang: Yes, that’s well said, but also maybe that's unfortunately to some extent..
Ryan: Take it 2 years to write a paper, Hahahaha...
Heyang: Wishful thinking, because looking at supposedly all the extra hand that we are equipped with, but have we obviously done something more to learn? Maybe not.
Ryan: What's the? How is the extra work of going in a library and having to find and go through a whole book to find that little piece of information and encyclopedia that's useful for your paper and doing that for 20 sources to write your thesis, I mean, if you think that's necessary for you, I'm sure you can do that. Libraries are still there, but I don't think you, even though you might say there is some utility in doing this kind of hard hand work, just walking around more. I think. yeah, it's nice to have technology to be able to be in our home, not being a library, being able to write our paper from there and see these sources.
Heyang: Well Huangshan, do you think it's still necessary to be able to spell in English and write our Chinese characters properly and correctly.
Huangshan: I think it’s really important, and I think the more important thing is, we should notice that the importance of spelling things in right form. Yeah, that's the most important thing.
Ryan: Well, then I expect both of you to turn your spell checks off ...(Chaos)
Heyang: That’s pretty hard, that's something we should not give up on because I think it is really a quite devastating state if all human beings one day can't really write in our own language. we've got so many messages coming in, let's read out a few. You are saying, the situation in China is rather different. I feel my sister in grade seven has to write and learn all these new characters almost every day. She could write so many Chinese characters that I find it not only difficult to write, but also sometimes even to recognize, and Yu’E, I know, you’re an adult. And also we have Han saying that it's funny that Google conducted this research as sometimes I know I've got the wrong spelling, but I don't care, I just carry on because I know Microsoft word will help me correct it(Thank you), and there’s ZhengChaoJun saying that today, smartphones and Microsoft have the auto correction for us. and yes, we have less chance to spell in the right way.
Ryan: So I guess what we’re trying to say is thank you Microsoft.
Heyang: Yes and we have our listeners, all chiming in and yes, we'd love to know what you think about spelling and writing the Chinese characters correctly and it’s relevant today in the digital era, you're listening to RoundTable with myself Heyang, Ryan Price and Huangshan.
