要怎麼樣才能成為一個內行人? [嘻哈速成寶典]
前言:
轉來一篇有趣的文章 與大家分享一下
表面爆笑
但個人感覺在另個層面來看含意深重 發人深省
首先 先大概向各位說明一下
什麼叫"backpacker"
看看下面ptt Hip-Hop前板主holicane a.k.a. 林老師精闢的解釋:
Backpacker原意指的是自助旅行者
就是那種省吃儉用刻苦耐勞有時候還不用洗澡的旅行家
在Hip Hop中
特指那些搭乘大眾運輸工具、在街上遊走、在公園出沒、背著背包的、厭惡商業化饒舌歌大談金錢、槍枝、馬子的基本教義派underground Hip Hop份子
他們背著背包的原因如下:
1.放著CD隨身聽或tapes 隨時可聽音樂
2.放照相機 隨時捕捉Hip Hop現象
3.放書籍 在搭大眾運輸系統時打發時間 並增進知識
4.放噴漆罐 backpacker總是喜歡這種調調
5.放外套 走路走久了會熱嘛
6.放大麻和酒 隨時保持party氣氛
7.放筆記本 隨時寫歌詞
8.放筆記型電腦 隨時可以做音樂
而在下面的這篇文章裡這
所謂的"backpacker"我們就把它當作"內行人"來做翻譯吧
==========================================================================
So.... you wanna be a backpacker huh?
原文:
HOW TO BE A BACKPACKER (By an Asian kid in the suburbs)
So you wake up one day and realize your taste in music sucks.
And obviously, that means you suck as well.
You're tired, frustrated, hopelessly unhip, and you're very sick of your Winamp playlist.
But wait...... before you pull that trigger, consider this.
You need hip hop and you need it fast.
For your sake, I've set up a "How to be a backpacker" kit that's so easy, virtually anybody can do it.
Don't worry.
You'll be in touch with the little b-boy inside of you in no time.
After this kit, you'll be keeping it so real that only other backpackers will understand a word you spit.
So what are we waiting for?
Let's begin.
A good backpacker is neck deep in underground hip hop records.
Here's some to get you started:
*Aceyalone - Accepted Eclectic
*Mystik Journeymen - Black Sands ov Eternia
*Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
*Anticon - Music for the Advancement of Hip Hop
*Quasimoto - The Unseen
*Atmosphere - Overcast
*7l & Esoteric - The Soul Purpose
Start with these.
Then supplement with some Aesop Rock, Buck 65, Solesides, Mr. Lif, and perhaps even a little Planet Asia.
Throw in some a Kool Keith record for good measure and you're set.
Frat boys are starting to claim they're about the "real" hip hop.
Show them who's boss by flaunting your superior tastes while STILL listening to all of their shit.
Here's some of their favorites:
*Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
*Deltron 3030 (anything by Del)
*The Roots - Things Fall Apart
*Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
*Common - Like Water for Chocolate
*Dilated Peoples - The Platform LP
*Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought
*Method Man / Redman - Blackout
Bonus Credit:
Try obtaining some tapes of local artists nobody knows about.
This will be your secret weapon.
So now you've got your base.
But you still look like a little new-jack.
Pick up some certified hip hop classics to boost your credibility.
People will think you've been in the game for years.
Backpacker approved classics:
*Nas - Illmatic
*Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
*Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
*De la Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
*A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
*Pete Rock / CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother
*Jeru tha Damaja - The Sun Rises in the East
*Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom it May Concern
*Gang Starr - Daily Operation
Feeling brave?
If you're ambitious, you can take things even further.
Convince 'em you were there in the beginning with these:
*BDP - Criminal Minded
*Public Enemy - It'll Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
*NWA - Straight Outta Compton
*Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown
*Run DMC - Raising Hell
*Erik B. & Rakim - Paid in Full
Bonus Credit:
Tell people you're from the Bronx.
Tell them about Kool Herc, Bambataa, and Flash.
You were there.
Make them believe it.
(Know your elements)
There are a few more things you must learn before you blossom into a backpacker.
Without delay, here you have it:
- If anybody asks, your favorite producers are Primo, Pete Rock, Automator, Prince Paul, and the RZA
(but emphasize that you only like pre-Wu-tang-Forever RZA).
- You must learn to speak like a backpacker.
Pepper your language with "knowmsayin" and refer to as many things as possible as "shit".
You'll have to be patient.
Try recording your voice and comparing it to some Busta Rhymes skits.
Practice makes perfect.
- Wear T-shirts, hooded sweatshirts, baggy jeans (not too baggy. you do not want to crossover into raver pants territory), and lots of hats and visors.
Walk with a slight limp and never smile.
- Have diversity on your side.
Backpackers get eclectic with Portishead, Esthero, Radiohead, DJ Shadow, and Amon Tobin.
You can say your girl/boyfriend got you into it.
- You must like at least one Jay-Z album.
It is a backpacker's obligation.
This will save your ass when people claim you are an elitist snob.
- Smoke lots of weed.
So there you have it.
It's really much easier than it sounds.
If it helps, try setting a few hours aside each day to practice hip hop.
Refer to UndergroundHipHop.com and read Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists.
Go to shows, write some lyrics, learn to beatbox, get some 1200s.
Learn about the elements and assimilate yourself into them.
Quiz your friends and laugh at their ignorance.
Confidence won't be so slippery much longer.
Remember... hip hop is a way of life, and now you've got the shortcuts.
http://www.five27.com/weblog/archives/000017.html
==========================================================================
台大ptt Hip-Hop板友AboveTheRim超屌中譯:
[要怎麼樣才能成為一個內行人?]
也許有一天,當你醒來的時候,你發現你聽的音樂根本都是屎,
很明顯的,
這代表你也是一團屎.這時你會感到相當無助、失落,想自殺......但是當你要扣下板機之前.......
先看看我這篇"嘻哈速成寶典"吧!
要成為內行人,你所需要做的第一步,就是先得知道一些Underground Hip-Hop的專輯,
可以從以下的專輯入門：
*Aceyalone - Accepted Eclectic
*Mystik Journeymen - Black Sands ov Eternia
*Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
*Anticon - Music for the Advancement of Hip Hop
*Quasimoto - The Unseen
*Atmosphere - Overcast
*7l & Esoteric - The Soul Purpose
行有餘力,再補充一些Aesop Rock, Buck 65, Solesides, Mr. Lif的專輯
這時你可以跟一些自認為是"Real" Hip-Hop的人嗆聲,
而這些人特愛：
*Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
*Deltron 3030 (anything by Del)
*The Roots - Things Fall Apart
*Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
*Common - Like Water for Chocolate
*Dilated Peoples - The Platform LP
*Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought
*Method Man / Redman - Blackout
去吧,去跟這些自以為的人嗆聲你的品味比她們高多了.
另外可以聽一些當地的地下音樂,最好是別人連聽都沒聽過的那種,這可以成為你嗆聲的秘密武器.
ok,現在你已經有一些基礎了,但是你看起來依然像個嫩逼,去聽一些內行人推薦的經典專輯,來增加你的嗆聲的威力
*Nas - Illmatic
*Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
*Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
*De la Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
*A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
*Pete Rock / CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother
*Jeru tha Damaja - The Sun Rises in the East
*Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom it May Concern
*Gang Starr - Daily Operation
你感到有自信了嗎?
再教你一招,跟別人說你是聽以下這些老傢伙的東西開始入門Hip-Hop的
*BDP - Criminal Minded
*Public Enemy - It'll Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
*NWA - Straight Outta Compton
*Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown
*Run DMC - Raising Hell
*Erik B. & Rakim - Paid in Full
你更可以跟別人說你是從bronx地區來的,跟她們談論Kool Herc,Bambataa及Flash的一些事,這會讓別人更尊敬你Hip-Hop的功力.
這裡再提醒你注意幾點:
1.如果有任何人問你你最愛的製作人是哪位?
唯一的標準答案：Primo, Pete Rock, Automator, Prince Paul and the RZA(還要特別說是wu-tang forever之前的RZA歐)
2.說話的時候盡量像個"內行人",例如把you know waht i'm saying說成knowmsayin
還有在指任何東西時,都把它稱為"shit"
最好能用錄音機錄下來,反覆練習
3.穿寬大的t-shirt,垮褲(但是可不能太垮,這樣會讓別人以為你是台客)
再戴個棒球帽或網帽,走路的時候要痞一點,臉上不要帶笑容
4.擴充你聽音樂的範圍,最好來點電音迷幻的東西,例如Portishead,Esthero, Radiohead, DJ Shadow, and Amon Tobin等,
就說是你馬子帶你入門的
5.最少最少,你一定要喜歡一張jay-z的專輯,這可是內行人必備的條件,這將在有人說你在自以為懂的時候,可以救你一命
6.大麻多吸點
ok,大致上就是這樣啦,做起來其實很簡單.
如果以上這些有幫助的話,每天再花點時間去www.undergroundhiphop.com或Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists更新你的hip-hop資訊.
看一些表演,寫幾句歌詞,學一下BeatBox,最好再懂點DJ
常常考你朋友Hip-Hop的問題,再嘲笑他們的無知,
記住,Hip-Hop是一種"生活態度",而我正教你怎麼走捷徑阿!!
==========================================================================
這真的是一篇妙不可言的文章
其實換個角度想
這個速成密訣似乎也可以通用到各種領域耶.....
KENLU的各位應該都或多或少有這樣的感覺.....
聊到球鞋,一定要講到AJ(1代, DMP,11代.....) , SB (巴黎, 四大天王, 加州, 海尼根.....) , AF1 (Stash, Cartoon.....)或是PE等等等天馬行空的....
好像非得跟這些所謂的"經典", 價值不斐的"波鞋"扯上關係才代表你真正的愛鞋, 懂球鞋, 是球鞋界的內行人......
嗯 真的是很有趣的議題.....
不管誰是誰非,不論矛不矛盾.......
相信大家可以藉此去思考一些東西.........
anyway
做什麼事最重要的是你得問自己真心喜歡嗎 開心嗎
這樣就夠了
do you gotta do
do the right thang
還有 別忘了R E S P E C T
尊重自己 也尊重他人
ONE LOVE~
PEACE!
飛輪寶寶
2006-11-14, 10:51 PM
在HIP-HOP的路上...我是個初學者....:kenlu_3:
感謝你的分享...:kenlu_8:
TONY
2006-11-14, 11:55 PM
好文好詞.....有意思:kenlu_15:
我不認為自己懂得嘻哈是啥....:kenlu_10:
不過我真的不喜歡假嘻哈真台客......:kenlu_7:
b0624reak
2006-11-15, 12:09 AM
哈哈像我也是聽HIPHOP好幾年了
從國中開始吧?!
我以前也不知道誰是2PAC
說真的每個人喜歡的類型都不一樣
有些HIPHOP就很主流有些就很GAN
見仁見智吧
像我也不會覺得誰是真嘻哈誰是假嘻哈
這種問題都不重要
重要的是要真的喜歡HIPHOP文化才是重點
喜歡自己所喜歡的
多吸收點資訊跟知識
不要董一點皮毛就在吹噓
這樣會令人作噁
球鞋也是一樣
懂得多就要懂得分享
這才是真正的精神所在!!
轉來一篇有趣的文章 與大家分享一下
表面爆笑
但個人感覺在另個層面來看含意深重 發人深省
首先 先大概向各位說明一下
什麼叫"backpacker"
看看下面ptt Hip-Hop前板主holicane a.k.a. 林老師精闢的解釋:
Backpacker原意指的是自助旅行者
就是那種省吃儉用刻苦耐勞有時候還不用洗澡的旅行家
在Hip Hop中
特指那些搭乘大眾運輸工具、在街上遊走、在公園出沒、背著背包的、厭惡商業化饒舌歌大談金錢、槍枝、馬子的基本教義派underground Hip Hop份子
他們背著背包的原因如下:
1.放著CD隨身聽或tapes 隨時可聽音樂
2.放照相機 隨時捕捉Hip Hop現象
3.放書籍 在搭大眾運輸系統時打發時間 並增進知識
4.放噴漆罐 backpacker總是喜歡這種調調
5.放外套 走路走久了會熱嘛
6.放大麻和酒 隨時保持party氣氛
7.放筆記本 隨時寫歌詞
8.放筆記型電腦 隨時可以做音樂
而在下面的這篇文章裡這
所謂的"backpacker"我們就把它當作"內行人"來做翻譯吧
==========================================================================
So.... you wanna be a backpacker huh?
原文:
HOW TO BE A BACKPACKER (By an Asian kid in the suburbs)
So you wake up one day and realize your taste in music sucks.
And obviously, that means you suck as well.
You're tired, frustrated, hopelessly unhip, and you're very sick of your Winamp playlist.
But wait...... before you pull that trigger, consider this.
You need hip hop and you need it fast.
For your sake, I've set up a "How to be a backpacker" kit that's so easy, virtually anybody can do it.
Don't worry.
You'll be in touch with the little b-boy inside of you in no time.
After this kit, you'll be keeping it so real that only other backpackers will understand a word you spit.
So what are we waiting for?
Let's begin.
A good backpacker is neck deep in underground hip hop records.
Here's some to get you started:
*Aceyalone - Accepted Eclectic
*Mystik Journeymen - Black Sands ov Eternia
*Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
*Anticon - Music for the Advancement of Hip Hop
*Quasimoto - The Unseen
*Atmosphere - Overcast
*7l & Esoteric - The Soul Purpose
Start with these.
Then supplement with some Aesop Rock, Buck 65, Solesides, Mr. Lif, and perhaps even a little Planet Asia.
Throw in some a Kool Keith record for good measure and you're set.
Frat boys are starting to claim they're about the "real" hip hop.
Show them who's boss by flaunting your superior tastes while STILL listening to all of their shit.
Here's some of their favorites:
*Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
*Deltron 3030 (anything by Del)
*The Roots - Things Fall Apart
*Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
*Common - Like Water for Chocolate
*Dilated Peoples - The Platform LP
*Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought
*Method Man / Redman - Blackout
Bonus Credit:
Try obtaining some tapes of local artists nobody knows about.
This will be your secret weapon.
So now you've got your base.
But you still look like a little new-jack.
Pick up some certified hip hop classics to boost your credibility.
People will think you've been in the game for years.
Backpacker approved classics:
*Nas - Illmatic
*Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
*Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
*De la Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
*A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
*Pete Rock / CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother
*Jeru tha Damaja - The Sun Rises in the East
*Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom it May Concern
*Gang Starr - Daily Operation
Feeling brave?
If you're ambitious, you can take things even further.
Convince 'em you were there in the beginning with these:
*BDP - Criminal Minded
*Public Enemy - It'll Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
*NWA - Straight Outta Compton
*Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown
*Run DMC - Raising Hell
*Erik B. & Rakim - Paid in Full
Bonus Credit:
Tell people you're from the Bronx.
Tell them about Kool Herc, Bambataa, and Flash.
You were there.
Make them believe it.
(Know your elements)
There are a few more things you must learn before you blossom into a backpacker.
Without delay, here you have it:
- If anybody asks, your favorite producers are Primo, Pete Rock, Automator, Prince Paul, and the RZA
(but emphasize that you only like pre-Wu-tang-Forever RZA).
- You must learn to speak like a backpacker.
Pepper your language with "knowmsayin" and refer to as many things as possible as "shit".
You'll have to be patient.
Try recording your voice and comparing it to some Busta Rhymes skits.
Practice makes perfect.
- Wear T-shirts, hooded sweatshirts, baggy jeans (not too baggy. you do not want to crossover into raver pants territory), and lots of hats and visors.
Walk with a slight limp and never smile.
- Have diversity on your side.
Backpackers get eclectic with Portishead, Esthero, Radiohead, DJ Shadow, and Amon Tobin.
You can say your girl/boyfriend got you into it.
- You must like at least one Jay-Z album.
It is a backpacker's obligation.
This will save your ass when people claim you are an elitist snob.
- Smoke lots of weed.
So there you have it.
It's really much easier than it sounds.
If it helps, try setting a few hours aside each day to practice hip hop.
Refer to UndergroundHipHop.com and read Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists.
Go to shows, write some lyrics, learn to beatbox, get some 1200s.
Learn about the elements and assimilate yourself into them.
Quiz your friends and laugh at their ignorance.
Confidence won't be so slippery much longer.
Remember... hip hop is a way of life, and now you've got the shortcuts.
http://www.five27.com/weblog/archives/000017.html
==========================================================================
台大ptt Hip-Hop板友AboveTheRim超屌中譯:
[要怎麼樣才能成為一個內行人?]
也許有一天,當你醒來的時候,你發現你聽的音樂根本都是屎,
很明顯的,
這代表你也是一團屎.這時你會感到相當無助、失落,想自殺......但是當你要扣下板機之前.......
先看看我這篇"嘻哈速成寶典"吧!
要成為內行人,你所需要做的第一步,就是先得知道一些Underground Hip-Hop的專輯,
可以從以下的專輯入門：
*Aceyalone - Accepted Eclectic
*Mystik Journeymen - Black Sands ov Eternia
*Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
*Anticon - Music for the Advancement of Hip Hop
*Quasimoto - The Unseen
*Atmosphere - Overcast
*7l & Esoteric - The Soul Purpose
行有餘力,再補充一些Aesop Rock, Buck 65, Solesides, Mr. Lif的專輯
這時你可以跟一些自認為是"Real" Hip-Hop的人嗆聲,
而這些人特愛：
*Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
*Deltron 3030 (anything by Del)
*The Roots - Things Fall Apart
*Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
*Common - Like Water for Chocolate
*Dilated Peoples - The Platform LP
*Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought
*Method Man / Redman - Blackout
去吧,去跟這些自以為的人嗆聲你的品味比她們高多了.
另外可以聽一些當地的地下音樂,最好是別人連聽都沒聽過的那種,這可以成為你嗆聲的秘密武器.
ok,現在你已經有一些基礎了,但是你看起來依然像個嫩逼,去聽一些內行人推薦的經典專輯,來增加你的嗆聲的威力
*Nas - Illmatic
*Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
*Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
*De la Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
*A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
*Pete Rock / CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother
*Jeru tha Damaja - The Sun Rises in the East
*Freestyle Fellowship - To Whom it May Concern
*Gang Starr - Daily Operation
你感到有自信了嗎?
再教你一招,跟別人說你是聽以下這些老傢伙的東西開始入門Hip-Hop的
*BDP - Criminal Minded
*Public Enemy - It'll Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
*NWA - Straight Outta Compton
*Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown
*Run DMC - Raising Hell
*Erik B. & Rakim - Paid in Full
你更可以跟別人說你是從bronx地區來的,跟她們談論Kool Herc,Bambataa及Flash的一些事,這會讓別人更尊敬你Hip-Hop的功力.
這裡再提醒你注意幾點:
1.如果有任何人問你你最愛的製作人是哪位?
唯一的標準答案：Primo, Pete Rock, Automator, Prince Paul and the RZA(還要特別說是wu-tang forever之前的RZA歐)
2.說話的時候盡量像個"內行人",例如把you know waht i'm saying說成knowmsayin
還有在指任何東西時,都把它稱為"shit"
最好能用錄音機錄下來,反覆練習
3.穿寬大的t-shirt,垮褲(但是可不能太垮,這樣會讓別人以為你是台客)
再戴個棒球帽或網帽,走路的時候要痞一點,臉上不要帶笑容
4.擴充你聽音樂的範圍,最好來點電音迷幻的東西,例如Portishead,Esthero, Radiohead, DJ Shadow, and Amon Tobin等,
就說是你馬子帶你入門的
5.最少最少,你一定要喜歡一張jay-z的專輯,這可是內行人必備的條件,這將在有人說你在自以為懂的時候,可以救你一命
6.大麻多吸點
ok,大致上就是這樣啦,做起來其實很簡單.
如果以上這些有幫助的話,每天再花點時間去www.undergroundhiphop.com或Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists更新你的hip-hop資訊.
看一些表演,寫幾句歌詞,學一下BeatBox,最好再懂點DJ
常常考你朋友Hip-Hop的問題,再嘲笑他們的無知,
記住,Hip-Hop是一種"生活態度",而我正教你怎麼走捷徑阿!!
==========================================================================
這真的是一篇妙不可言的文章
其實換個角度想
這個速成密訣似乎也可以通用到各種領域耶.....
KENLU的各位應該都或多或少有這樣的感覺.....
聊到球鞋,一定要講到AJ(1代, DMP,11代.....) , SB (巴黎, 四大天王, 加州, 海尼根.....) , AF1 (Stash, Cartoon.....)或是PE等等等天馬行空的....
好像非得跟這些所謂的"經典", 價值不斐的"波鞋"扯上關係才代表你真正的愛鞋, 懂球鞋, 是球鞋界的內行人......
嗯 真的是很有趣的議題.....
不管誰是誰非,不論矛不矛盾.......
相信大家可以藉此去思考一些東西.........
anyway
做什麼事最重要的是你得問自己真心喜歡嗎 開心嗎
這樣就夠了
do you gotta do
do the right thang
還有 別忘了R E S P E C T
尊重自己 也尊重他人
ONE LOVE~
PEACE!
飛輪寶寶
2006-11-14, 10:51 PM
在HIP-HOP的路上...我是個初學者....:kenlu_3:
感謝你的分享...:kenlu_8:
TONY
2006-11-14, 11:55 PM
好文好詞.....有意思:kenlu_15:
我不認為自己懂得嘻哈是啥....:kenlu_10:
不過我真的不喜歡假嘻哈真台客......:kenlu_7:
b0624reak
2006-11-15, 12:09 AM
哈哈像我也是聽HIPHOP好幾年了
從國中開始吧?!
我以前也不知道誰是2PAC
說真的每個人喜歡的類型都不一樣
有些HIPHOP就很主流有些就很GAN
見仁見智吧
像我也不會覺得誰是真嘻哈誰是假嘻哈
這種問題都不重要
重要的是要真的喜歡HIPHOP文化才是重點
喜歡自己所喜歡的
多吸收點資訊跟知識
不要董一點皮毛就在吹噓
這樣會令人作噁
球鞋也是一樣
懂得多就要懂得分享
這才是真正的精神所在!!
