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纽约妞 - Kerrang, 18 Jan 1997
90年代最酷的摇滚明星生于纽约长在卢森堡，并且极有可能迷倒英格兰——如果它见到Placebo的Brian Molko的话，他对自己的放荡供认不讳，是个喜欢磕药的小婊子。
“人们就希望看我发贱，”他告诉Paul Brannigan，“而我已经贱了”。。。
“我从小就想做个流行明星，”Brian Molko说道。“我小时候坐在马桶上买大时，就常幻想自己被采访的样子。我爸妈觉得我不大对劲，居然边拉屎边自言自语。”
整个90年代人们都在抱怨再也找不到牛逼的摇滚歌星了。垃圾摇滚的出现带来了反明星的风潮，然而，随着人们跃入崭新的世纪，乐迷们无疑也想快点挨过这段千篇一律的灰色年代，他们需要一个更光鲜靓丽，更风情万种，更性感撩人的明星。于是乎，来自Placebo的Brian Molko登场了。
要说96年度最迷幻最大胆的专辑，当属Placebo的同名处子专辑。其中充斥着青春期的愤怒，道德上的彷徨和性别意识的含混不清。瞧好了，今年这个伦敦三人组——另外两只分别是来自瑞典的贝司手Stefan Olsdal和鼓手Steve Hewitt——将如何直击人心。那么，快让我们了解一下他们魅力四射的主唱吧。
你大概很难想象，眼前这个讨人喜欢的小伙子Brian Molko，在孩提时代曾是个“小刺儿头”。尽管生在纽约，他却只能跟随着他保守的美国双亲生活在一点都不摇滚的卢森堡 。他承认他始终是个局外人，在很小的时候就意识到自己和同龄人想不到一块儿去。10岁的时候，他得到了第一把吉他，并从Velvet Underground粗糙的音乐魅力，PJ Harvey激烈的性别政治观，以及Sonic Youth中获得了灵感与力量。
“我倒宁愿做个局外人，因为萦绕着我的魔鬼尚未消失，”他用软绵绵、懒洋洋的语调说着，此刻我们正在伦敦的一家酒吧里啜饮着啤酒。“我可不想活得太舒服。安乐窝里出来的音乐，只能是屎一坨。”
Placebo的歌里时常出现支离破碎的关系和不负责任的性爱。性是Placebo的一大要素。自然，Brian还记着他的第一次。“说起来，那还挺特别的。那年我14岁，她是个法国人，是我第一个女朋友。我们在我的房间里有了第一次，双双失掉了童贞。我告诉我妈我鼻血滴在床单上了，结果她说，‘那你躺着的姿势一定相当奇怪’”。
“大家都当我是个婊子，”他继续说道，“音乐是一部分原因，还有行为举止也是。我喜欢这样的事情：今天你还是个靠着救济金活下去的废柴，明天你在俱乐部做个演出，立刻就牛逼起来了。不可否认。我也以此讨过一些便宜，但假如人们接近你只为了满足自己的想象，那是当不了真的，所以这样很不好。”
每天这么“进进出出”，你有时候也不得不退而求其次吧？
“那是，饥不择食呀。不过，在不自相矛盾的前提下，和陌生人做爱真不是一般的爽。尽管事后你有时会罪恶感横生，但当时也管不了那么多了。”
你对于肉体的渴求有没有强烈抵触呢？
“怎么可能，”他邪邪一笑。“当感觉来了的时候，我才不信谁还能正儿八经的。渴求与性欲来得快去得也快，你被压抑了多少，你就要讨回来多少。你被压抑了多少呢，Paul？”
短暂的羞赧兼结巴后，我们继续。Placebo的下支单曲Nancy Boy，为模糊性别界限而高唱赞歌，其主题就是：不定性向。光看歌词就极具煽动性，“闺房之内，梳洗红妆，廉价香水，将他浸；，纸袋蒙脸，不做细看，从未享此，鱼水之欢。”
由于天生丽质，Brian雌雄莫辨的外形总让人误会他的性别。他倒是对这种误会乐在其中，不仅浓妆艳抹，在酒吧和俱乐部里还专挑女厕所上。“我喜欢像女人一样被男人盯着看，”他笑着说，随即发出不怀好意地咯咯声。“甚至被盯着干。”
Brian的性向总让人议论纷纷，谁都搞不清他究竟是哪一边的，就如同电视访谈之王Alan Partridge曾经评价的那样，他就好像同时支持曼联和曼城。那么，你理想的伴侣是怎样的呢，Brian？
“我担心我一旦以实相告，我就没法反悔了，”他说。“这么说吧，我理想的伴侣是和我一样思想开放的人。”
好吧，我们就转而谈一谈让无数摇滚明星难以自拔的东西——毒品。早先，Brian曾开玩笑说他喜欢用女厕所的原因之一是它的小隔间比较多，这样吸起嗅用麻醉品来就方便得多。他还大谈特谈服用大麻和混合药片。“我爱毒品——没了它们还活个什么劲呀，”他说。“和大多数人一样，我对于迷幻药和致幻剂也有不好的经历，但这并没有阻止我服用其他东西。”
那你磕药时有什么底线么？
“我周围有很多人都吸食海洛因，”他语速慢了下来，“有无数次，我差一点就吸了，但由于某些原因，我最终还是没去吸。这大概是这个星球上我唯一没碰过的毒品吧。”
是不是因为要用到针管？
“针管我倒没什么，”他耸耸肩。“我也静脉注射过其他毒品。第一次有点怕，以后就习惯了，这其实很危险。 你会喜欢上皮肤上留下的小水疱，没事儿就玩玩它。你开始想，医院里的人们也不往你鼻孔里塞药片阿，他们都是注射的——所以用针管没准还干净些，效果也更好。当然，我并不建议你们的读者也这么干。”
你是否觉得你的行为举止，如同其他摇滚明星，是在掩饰青春期的不安全感？
“不可否认，我渴望被爱，我需要关怀，”他笑道。“但对于那段艰难的岁月，我仍充满感激，因为假如我是Liam Gallagher，我会以为那就是生活的全部。”
承认吧，你就喜欢这样，你个小贱人~
“好吧，旅途的孤单和乐事正好抵消，人们总是小心翼翼地对待你，整天围着你转。最好的办法就是回到家里，重新收拾一下自个儿，然后想，“我他妈的算个什么东西？”
那么你觉得人们希望你是什么样的呢？
“人们就希望看我发贱，”这位本年度最酷摇滚明星说道。“但他们慢了一步。我已经贱了。”
原文
NEW YORK DOLL - Kerrang, 18 Jan 1997
The coolest rock star of the ‘90s was born in the Big Apple, raised in Luxemburg and could probably shag for England - meet PLACEBO’s Brian Molko, a self-confessed immoral, drug-loving slut. "People want me to be very f**ked up," he informs Paul Brannigan, "and I am"…
"I ALWAYS wanted to be a pop star," says Brian Molko. "When I was much younger, taking a shit on the toilet, I used to imagine I was being interviewed. My parents thought I was a bit strange talking to myself as I was shitting."
Throughout the 1990s people have complained that there are no larger than life rock stars anymore. The grunge phenomenon brought with it the cult of an anti-star, but as we hurtle towards the new milennium, you can bet that music fans are going to come of this grey conformity and start seeking out someone a little more flamboyant, exotic and erotic. Enter Placebo’s Brian Molko.
Placebo’s eponymously-titled debut album was the most enigmatic and adventurous release of ’96. By turns shimmeringly sexy and sleazy ??ister, it was filled with tales of adolescent damnation, moral confusion and sexual ambiguity. This year will see the London-based-trio-who are completed by Swedish bassist Stefan Olsdal and drummer Steve Hewitt - take a firm grip on our hearts and minds. So, it’s high time to get acquainted with their charismatic leader.
An instantly likable chap, you’d never guess Brian Molko was an "aggressive little shit" as a kid. Born in New York, he was brought up by conservative American parents in the un-rock’n’roll climes of Luxemburg. He admits that he never felt he fitted in, realising at a young age that he didn’t think along the same as his peers. Aged 16, he got his first guitar, and found inspiration and empowerement in the Velvet Underground’s debased glamour, PJ Harvey’s fierce looks of sexual politics and Sonic Youth. But music can only provide a temporary release from life’s problems, and adolescence was plainly not an easy time for the young Mr. Molko.
"I’d rather not go into it, because the demons which haunted me then haven’t disappeared, " he says in his soft spoken drawl as we sip pints in a London pub. "But I never wanted life to be cosy. If it was, our music would be shit."
Placebo’s songs are rifle with tales of disintegrating relationships and devaulted sex. Sex is huge factor in Placebo’s land. And yes, Brian remembers the first time. "It was quite special, actually. I was 14, she was French, and my first girlfriend. It happened in my room and we lost our virginities together. I convinced my mother that I’d had a nosebleed on the duvet but she said, ‘You must have been lying in a strange position."
"I have a reputation as a slut," he continues, "based on percieved behaviour as much as music. It always amuses me that one day you’re a loser on the dole, the next you do a club gig and you’re infinitely more f**kable. I’m not going to say I’ve never taken advantage of it, but when people want to get intimate with you because of who they think you are it can never be real, so it’s no good."
Being from home a lot, presumably you have to make do with second-rate sex sometimes?
"It has to do, because it’s the only affection you can find. But, without contradicting myself, sex with a stranger is a totally different kind of exciting rush. Sometimes you get really guilty about something which feels brilliant at the time."
And are you a particulary moral person about urges of the flesh?
"Not at all," he grins. "I don’t believe there’s such thing as black and white when it comes to desire and emotion. Desire and sexuality are very fluid, and how much you accept that depends on how repressed you are. How repressed are you, Paul?"
One bout of red-faced stuttering later, we move on. The theme of fluid sexuality is captured in Placebo’s next single, "Nancy Boy". A homage to the blurring of sexual boundaries. It features the provocative lyric, "Does his make up in his room, douses himself in cheap perfume, eye holes in a paper bag, greatest lay I ever had".
A naturally pretty chap, Brian’s androgynous appearance has led to much confusion as to his gender. He actively encougares such confusion, wearing make-up and using the ladies’ toilets in pubs and clubs. "I like the idea of being as attractive to men as women," he smiles, before letting out a filthy chuckle. "And perhaps even being available."
Brian’s sexual orientation has been the subject of much debate, with no one quite sure whether, as TV chat king Alan Partridge once memorably remarked, he plays for Man Utd and Man City. So, who would be your ideal partner, Brian?
"I’m aware that if I answer this honestly I will never be able to live it down," he says. "Let’s say my ideal partner would be someone who keeps their opinions open as much as I do."
Okay, we’ll detour into that other rock star over-indulgence, drugs. Earlier, Brian joked that one reason he liked using ladies’s toilets was that they had more cubicles, a reference to "nose candy" indulgence. He also chats openly about using cannabis and assorted pills. "I love drugs - life wouldn’t be the same without them," he says. "Like most people, I’ve had bad trips on acid and Ectasy, but it doesn’t stop me taking things."
Anything you’d draw the line at taking?
"I’ve been around a lot of people who take heroin," he begins slowly, "and there have been so many times I’ve been up for doing it, but for some reason it hasn’t happened. It’s probably the only drug on this planet I haven’t tried."
Is that just because there’s needles involved ?
"I don’t have a problem with needles," he shrugs. "I’ve intravenously injected other drugs. You’re a bit scared the first time, but then you get a bit of fixation for them, which is dangerous.You like the little skin bubble it causes, and play with it. You start thinking that in hospital people don’t shove drugs up your nose, they inject you - so using needles is clearer, purer and gives you a better hit. I don’t recommend it for your readers, though."
Do you ever think that your behaviour is, as with many other rock stars, a cover for your adolescent insecurity?
"I couldn’t deny that I want to be loved and that I want attention," he smiles. "But I’m thankful that I have a hard time dealing with it, because if I was Liam Gallagher I’d start believing it was real life."
Admit it, you love all this, you slaaag….
"Well, the good bits are balanced out by the loneliness of touring, the antiseptic way in which people treat you, and having to talk about yourself all day. You just go home, have a spliff, and think, "Who the F**k am I?’."
Ands what do you think people want you to be?
"People want me to be very f**ked up," says this year’s coolest young rock star. "But they’re too late. I already am."
90年代最酷的摇滚明星生于纽约长在卢森堡，并且极有可能迷倒英格兰——如果它见到Placebo的Brian Molko的话，他对自己的放荡供认不讳，是个喜欢磕药的小婊子。
“人们就希望看我发贱，”他告诉Paul Brannigan，“而我已经贱了”。。。
“我从小就想做个流行明星，”Brian Molko说道。“我小时候坐在马桶上买大时，就常幻想自己被采访的样子。我爸妈觉得我不大对劲，居然边拉屎边自言自语。”
整个90年代人们都在抱怨再也找不到牛逼的摇滚歌星了。垃圾摇滚的出现带来了反明星的风潮，然而，随着人们跃入崭新的世纪，乐迷们无疑也想快点挨过这段千篇一律的灰色年代，他们需要一个更光鲜靓丽，更风情万种，更性感撩人的明星。于是乎，来自Placebo的Brian Molko登场了。
要说96年度最迷幻最大胆的专辑，当属Placebo的同名处子专辑。其中充斥着青春期的愤怒，道德上的彷徨和性别意识的含混不清。瞧好了，今年这个伦敦三人组——另外两只分别是来自瑞典的贝司手Stefan Olsdal和鼓手Steve Hewitt——将如何直击人心。那么，快让我们了解一下他们魅力四射的主唱吧。
你大概很难想象，眼前这个讨人喜欢的小伙子Brian Molko，在孩提时代曾是个“小刺儿头”。尽管生在纽约，他却只能跟随着他保守的美国双亲生活在一点都不摇滚的卢森堡 。他承认他始终是个局外人，在很小的时候就意识到自己和同龄人想不到一块儿去。10岁的时候，他得到了第一把吉他，并从Velvet Underground粗糙的音乐魅力，PJ Harvey激烈的性别政治观，以及Sonic Youth中获得了灵感与力量。
“我倒宁愿做个局外人，因为萦绕着我的魔鬼尚未消失，”他用软绵绵、懒洋洋的语调说着，此刻我们正在伦敦的一家酒吧里啜饮着啤酒。“我可不想活得太舒服。安乐窝里出来的音乐，只能是屎一坨。”
Placebo的歌里时常出现支离破碎的关系和不负责任的性爱。性是Placebo的一大要素。自然，Brian还记着他的第一次。“说起来，那还挺特别的。那年我14岁，她是个法国人，是我第一个女朋友。我们在我的房间里有了第一次，双双失掉了童贞。我告诉我妈我鼻血滴在床单上了，结果她说，‘那你躺着的姿势一定相当奇怪’”。
“大家都当我是个婊子，”他继续说道，“音乐是一部分原因，还有行为举止也是。我喜欢这样的事情：今天你还是个靠着救济金活下去的废柴，明天你在俱乐部做个演出，立刻就牛逼起来了。不可否认。我也以此讨过一些便宜，但假如人们接近你只为了满足自己的想象，那是当不了真的，所以这样很不好。”
每天这么“进进出出”，你有时候也不得不退而求其次吧？
“那是，饥不择食呀。不过，在不自相矛盾的前提下，和陌生人做爱真不是一般的爽。尽管事后你有时会罪恶感横生，但当时也管不了那么多了。”
你对于肉体的渴求有没有强烈抵触呢？
“怎么可能，”他邪邪一笑。“当感觉来了的时候，我才不信谁还能正儿八经的。渴求与性欲来得快去得也快，你被压抑了多少，你就要讨回来多少。你被压抑了多少呢，Paul？”
短暂的羞赧兼结巴后，我们继续。Placebo的下支单曲Nancy Boy，为模糊性别界限而高唱赞歌，其主题就是：不定性向。光看歌词就极具煽动性，“闺房之内，梳洗红妆，廉价香水，将他浸；，纸袋蒙脸，不做细看，从未享此，鱼水之欢。”
由于天生丽质，Brian雌雄莫辨的外形总让人误会他的性别。他倒是对这种误会乐在其中，不仅浓妆艳抹，在酒吧和俱乐部里还专挑女厕所上。“我喜欢像女人一样被男人盯着看，”他笑着说，随即发出不怀好意地咯咯声。“甚至被盯着干。”
Brian的性向总让人议论纷纷，谁都搞不清他究竟是哪一边的，就如同电视访谈之王Alan Partridge曾经评价的那样，他就好像同时支持曼联和曼城。那么，你理想的伴侣是怎样的呢，Brian？
“我担心我一旦以实相告，我就没法反悔了，”他说。“这么说吧，我理想的伴侣是和我一样思想开放的人。”
好吧，我们就转而谈一谈让无数摇滚明星难以自拔的东西——毒品。早先，Brian曾开玩笑说他喜欢用女厕所的原因之一是它的小隔间比较多，这样吸起嗅用麻醉品来就方便得多。他还大谈特谈服用大麻和混合药片。“我爱毒品——没了它们还活个什么劲呀，”他说。“和大多数人一样，我对于迷幻药和致幻剂也有不好的经历，但这并没有阻止我服用其他东西。”
那你磕药时有什么底线么？
“我周围有很多人都吸食海洛因，”他语速慢了下来，“有无数次，我差一点就吸了，但由于某些原因，我最终还是没去吸。这大概是这个星球上我唯一没碰过的毒品吧。”
是不是因为要用到针管？
“针管我倒没什么，”他耸耸肩。“我也静脉注射过其他毒品。第一次有点怕，以后就习惯了，这其实很危险。 你会喜欢上皮肤上留下的小水疱，没事儿就玩玩它。你开始想，医院里的人们也不往你鼻孔里塞药片阿，他们都是注射的——所以用针管没准还干净些，效果也更好。当然，我并不建议你们的读者也这么干。”
你是否觉得你的行为举止，如同其他摇滚明星，是在掩饰青春期的不安全感？
“不可否认，我渴望被爱，我需要关怀，”他笑道。“但对于那段艰难的岁月，我仍充满感激，因为假如我是Liam Gallagher，我会以为那就是生活的全部。”
承认吧，你就喜欢这样，你个小贱人~
“好吧，旅途的孤单和乐事正好抵消，人们总是小心翼翼地对待你，整天围着你转。最好的办法就是回到家里，重新收拾一下自个儿，然后想，“我他妈的算个什么东西？”
那么你觉得人们希望你是什么样的呢？
“人们就希望看我发贱，”这位本年度最酷摇滚明星说道。“但他们慢了一步。我已经贱了。”
原文
NEW YORK DOLL - Kerrang, 18 Jan 1997
The coolest rock star of the ‘90s was born in the Big Apple, raised in Luxemburg and could probably shag for England - meet PLACEBO’s Brian Molko, a self-confessed immoral, drug-loving slut. "People want me to be very f**ked up," he informs Paul Brannigan, "and I am"…
"I ALWAYS wanted to be a pop star," says Brian Molko. "When I was much younger, taking a shit on the toilet, I used to imagine I was being interviewed. My parents thought I was a bit strange talking to myself as I was shitting."
Throughout the 1990s people have complained that there are no larger than life rock stars anymore. The grunge phenomenon brought with it the cult of an anti-star, but as we hurtle towards the new milennium, you can bet that music fans are going to come of this grey conformity and start seeking out someone a little more flamboyant, exotic and erotic. Enter Placebo’s Brian Molko.
Placebo’s eponymously-titled debut album was the most enigmatic and adventurous release of ’96. By turns shimmeringly sexy and sleazy ??ister, it was filled with tales of adolescent damnation, moral confusion and sexual ambiguity. This year will see the London-based-trio-who are completed by Swedish bassist Stefan Olsdal and drummer Steve Hewitt - take a firm grip on our hearts and minds. So, it’s high time to get acquainted with their charismatic leader.
An instantly likable chap, you’d never guess Brian Molko was an "aggressive little shit" as a kid. Born in New York, he was brought up by conservative American parents in the un-rock’n’roll climes of Luxemburg. He admits that he never felt he fitted in, realising at a young age that he didn’t think along the same as his peers. Aged 16, he got his first guitar, and found inspiration and empowerement in the Velvet Underground’s debased glamour, PJ Harvey’s fierce looks of sexual politics and Sonic Youth. But music can only provide a temporary release from life’s problems, and adolescence was plainly not an easy time for the young Mr. Molko.
"I’d rather not go into it, because the demons which haunted me then haven’t disappeared, " he says in his soft spoken drawl as we sip pints in a London pub. "But I never wanted life to be cosy. If it was, our music would be shit."
Placebo’s songs are rifle with tales of disintegrating relationships and devaulted sex. Sex is huge factor in Placebo’s land. And yes, Brian remembers the first time. "It was quite special, actually. I was 14, she was French, and my first girlfriend. It happened in my room and we lost our virginities together. I convinced my mother that I’d had a nosebleed on the duvet but she said, ‘You must have been lying in a strange position."
"I have a reputation as a slut," he continues, "based on percieved behaviour as much as music. It always amuses me that one day you’re a loser on the dole, the next you do a club gig and you’re infinitely more f**kable. I’m not going to say I’ve never taken advantage of it, but when people want to get intimate with you because of who they think you are it can never be real, so it’s no good."
Being from home a lot, presumably you have to make do with second-rate sex sometimes?
"It has to do, because it’s the only affection you can find. But, without contradicting myself, sex with a stranger is a totally different kind of exciting rush. Sometimes you get really guilty about something which feels brilliant at the time."
And are you a particulary moral person about urges of the flesh?
"Not at all," he grins. "I don’t believe there’s such thing as black and white when it comes to desire and emotion. Desire and sexuality are very fluid, and how much you accept that depends on how repressed you are. How repressed are you, Paul?"
One bout of red-faced stuttering later, we move on. The theme of fluid sexuality is captured in Placebo’s next single, "Nancy Boy". A homage to the blurring of sexual boundaries. It features the provocative lyric, "Does his make up in his room, douses himself in cheap perfume, eye holes in a paper bag, greatest lay I ever had".
A naturally pretty chap, Brian’s androgynous appearance has led to much confusion as to his gender. He actively encougares such confusion, wearing make-up and using the ladies’ toilets in pubs and clubs. "I like the idea of being as attractive to men as women," he smiles, before letting out a filthy chuckle. "And perhaps even being available."
Brian’s sexual orientation has been the subject of much debate, with no one quite sure whether, as TV chat king Alan Partridge once memorably remarked, he plays for Man Utd and Man City. So, who would be your ideal partner, Brian?
"I’m aware that if I answer this honestly I will never be able to live it down," he says. "Let’s say my ideal partner would be someone who keeps their opinions open as much as I do."
Okay, we’ll detour into that other rock star over-indulgence, drugs. Earlier, Brian joked that one reason he liked using ladies’s toilets was that they had more cubicles, a reference to "nose candy" indulgence. He also chats openly about using cannabis and assorted pills. "I love drugs - life wouldn’t be the same without them," he says. "Like most people, I’ve had bad trips on acid and Ectasy, but it doesn’t stop me taking things."
Anything you’d draw the line at taking?
"I’ve been around a lot of people who take heroin," he begins slowly, "and there have been so many times I’ve been up for doing it, but for some reason it hasn’t happened. It’s probably the only drug on this planet I haven’t tried."
Is that just because there’s needles involved ?
"I don’t have a problem with needles," he shrugs. "I’ve intravenously injected other drugs. You’re a bit scared the first time, but then you get a bit of fixation for them, which is dangerous.You like the little skin bubble it causes, and play with it. You start thinking that in hospital people don’t shove drugs up your nose, they inject you - so using needles is clearer, purer and gives you a better hit. I don’t recommend it for your readers, though."
Do you ever think that your behaviour is, as with many other rock stars, a cover for your adolescent insecurity?
"I couldn’t deny that I want to be loved and that I want attention," he smiles. "But I’m thankful that I have a hard time dealing with it, because if I was Liam Gallagher I’d start believing it was real life."
Admit it, you love all this, you slaaag….
"Well, the good bits are balanced out by the loneliness of touring, the antiseptic way in which people treat you, and having to talk about yourself all day. You just go home, have a spliff, and think, "Who the F**k am I?’."
Ands what do you think people want you to be?
"People want me to be very f**ked up," says this year’s coolest young rock star. "But they’re too late. I already am."
