Many cultured persons were able to escape the lure of wealth, but only the very greatest could escape the lure of fame. Once a monk was discoursing with his pupil on these two sources of wordly cares, and said:"It is easier to get rid of the desire for money that to get rid of the desire for fame. Even retired scholars and monks still want to be distinguished and well-known among their company. they want to give public discourses to a large audience, and not retire to a small monastery talking to one pupil, like you and me now." the pupil replied:"Indeed, Master, you are the only man in the world who has conquered the desire for fame!" And the Master smiled.