也说INFJ 和INTJ的区别
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关于这两型的区别,我看了很多评论,但感觉似是而非并没有被说服。所以,我在网上找了一点资料。原本想放在“INFJ和INTJ的区别?”这一帖之后,后来决定另立一帖。 原文 http://www.infj.com/INFJorINTJ.htm Temperament 气质 INFJs have the Catalyst temperament, while INTJs have the Theorist temperament. Their core needs are different, their values are different -- and so are the skills and behaviors you might see in the outer world. Just a little bit of delving into the differences in Temperament is the fastest route toward discerning which type pattern is the better fit. (Brief Temperament descriptions and their core needs may be found here.) INTJs tend to display a scientific bent, while INFJs tend to display a humanistic bent. An important distinction between INFJs and INTJs is that the "intelligence" or "skill-set" INTJs excel at is Strategic, followed by Diplomatic; while for INFJs the order is reversed: Diplomatic, followed by Strategic. So INTJs typically consider Logic first, people second; while INFJs tend to consider people first, Logic second. INFJ具有促进者的气质而INTJ具有理论家的气质,他们的核心需求不同,价值标准也不同,因此他们技能和行为从外部看起来也就不同。通过研究气质上的不同来判断更符合哪一种类型是最快的途径。INTJ看起来更科学严谨,INFJ则看起来更人文。INFJ和INTJ一个重要区别是,前者是“信息集”后者是“技巧集”。INTJ擅长制定策略而后再考虑策略是否圆滑,而INFJ则是先考虑是否圆滑再制定策略。因此,INTJ的思维是逻辑优先的,其次是人,而INFJ是人优先,逻辑在后。 Interaction Styles 互动方式 INFJs and INTJs share the same interaction style, which contributes mightily to the misunderstanding -- however, there are slight differences within the way the style gets expressed. But if you're new to type, those distinctions are likely to be too ambiguous to comprehend at this stage of the game. Either way, both type patterns will naturally "anticipate" (which is sometimes conflated with either Strategic or Diplomatic intelligence in the Temperament model). INFJ和INTJ分享同样的互动方式,这是使两种类型易于混淆的一个方面。然而,在互动方式的影响程度上,这两种类型是有区别的。对于刚开始接触MBTI的人来说,这种区别可能显得模糊而难以理解。 Dichotomies 二分法 If one relies on the MBTI dichotomies, it is all too easy for "Fs" to imagine they are "Ts", and for "Ts" to imagine they are "Fs." The only way to get beyond this misunderstanding is to delve into the eight-function model and explore the cognitive processes in greater depth. 如果依赖MBTI二分法,对于F来说想象他们是T太容易,对T们来说也一样。跳出这种误解的唯一方法是研究8功能模型并在更深的程度上探索认知过程。 Cognitive Processes 认知过程 Here again, as with the Temperament model, the differences come into better focus. INFJs and INTJs share the same dominant cognitive process: introverted iNtuiting (Ni). This is commonly called "foreseeing." Thus, both INFJs and INTJs are both interested in synthesizing, integrating, conceptualizing, understanding complex patterns, and focusing on the future. Where the divergence occurs is around the auxiliary process. Here's where Thinking and Feeling pop into view. 在气质模型中,差异得到了更集中的体现。 INFJ和INTJ分享相同的认知过程:内向直觉。这个功能通常称为预测功能。因此,INFJ和INTJ对于综合、集成、概念化、理解复杂模式以及关注未来。 他们的区别在于辅助功能,即思考和情感。 INTJs have a preference for extraverted Thinking as their auxiliary process. Thus, they are given to "segmenting" -- which includes measuring things with objective criteria. They will naturally calculate how long something will take, how soon the next event will occur, and enjoy telling you about these measurements. They like organizing for efficiency, systematizing, structuring. Their tendency is to provide you with their rationales: "The reason I'm late is because it took me 15 minutes longer on the freeway than it normally does. I was only able to maintain a speed of 25 mph, compared to my normal speed of 40 mph." And so forth. These rationales and measurements are very important to INTJs. They especially love to predict how long something is going to take, and their wristwatch is probably among their prize possessions. They collect trivial facts constantly, and can probably tell you all the contents of their medicine cabinet -- including the proper names for all their pharmaceuticals. Just ask them about their computer -- they'll tell you the processor speed, memory size, hard disk capacity, operating system version, and network capabilities. Chances are they've even memorized the Periodic Table of Elements. INTJ偏好外向思考作为他们的辅助功能。因此他们擅长“分割”,其中包括用客观的标准去衡量事物。他们能够自然的计算某事耗费多长的时间,下一个事件什么时候发生,并乐于告诉别人测量的结果。他们愿意为实现高效、系统化和结构化去进行组织。他们喜欢为你提供他们的理由,例如,他们迟到是因为待在高速公路上的时间比平时多15分钟,但是他们只能在25英里以下行驶,而平时是40英里。这些理由和测算对于INTJ来说十分重要。他们尤其喜欢预测某事将要耗费多长时间,他们的手表很可能是他们的奖品。他们持续的收集琐碎的事实,很可能会告诉你他们的药箱里都放了什么-包括药品名称。跟他们谈谈电脑吧,他们将告诉你处理器的速度、内存大小、硬盘容量、操作系统以及网络性能。碰巧的话你会发现他们甚至记得元素周期表。 INTJs like to work with challenges that occur in the moment -- the ones right before their eyes. If you want to see an INTJ in top form, watch them respond to changes in travel plans. If a flight gets cancelled or delayed, they will rapidly move from Plan A to Plan B, and so on, until they exhaust all possible contingencies. Even if they fail to salvage the situation, they relish trying to solve the immediate problem. They like to "get their hands dirty," so to speak. If there is a computer malfunction, they are inclined to grab the mouse and take over the keyboard so they can start "trying things out" right away to fix the problem. They can clean a house faster than a tornado if company's comin' -- just don't expect them to remember where they put things after company goes home! INTJ喜欢那些在他们眼皮子底下的具有挑战性的工作。如果你想知道INTJ极致状态是啥样,就看看他们对于旅行计划的反应吧。如果航班取消或延迟,他们将会快速的从A计划转移到B计划,直到他们花光所有的应急费用。即使他们没能改变状况,单是解决突发问题的过程已经足够让他们享受了。可以说,INTJ天生喜欢“趟浑水”。如果有电脑故障,INTJ倾向于接管鼠标和键盘以便他们可以很好立即开始尝试解决问题。如果有朋友来,INTJ清理房间比龙卷风还要快,但是等待到朋友回家以后,不要指望INTJ还能记得东西被塞到哪儿去了。 INFJs have a preference for extraverted Feeling as their auxiliary process. Thus, they tend to be "charming" and are given to "connecting" -- which includes maintaining an extensive web of relationships. They are given to adjusting to and accommodating others, deciding whether something is appropriate or acceptable to others. For instance, one INFJ experienced a great deal of stress on a message board when some political bashing started. There was an implicit assumption that everyone on the board was a member of a particular party, when in fact this INFJ knew members of the opposing party were present. It caused her no end of stress that these people were being maligned by the bashers, even though there was no apparent conflict. Other INFJs maintain internet blogs and "connect" with others in cyberspace, and maintain their web of relationship via that means. If she were to dine with others, she would be concerned that the food appeal to everyone's tastes, there are no food allergies, and that the price is within everyone's budget (if it's a restaurant). INFJ偏好使用外向情感作为他们的辅助功能。因此,他们往往倾向于表现的“迷人”并惯于做“桥梁”-包括维持一个广泛的人际关系网络。他们惯于调整自己以便接纳他人,决定某事对于他人来说是否合适或可能被对方接受。例如,一个INFJ在留言板上看到政治抨击,他会感觉到很大的压力。这里有一个隐含的假设,板块上每一个人都是某一个党派的成员,这时候 INFJ会发现反对党成员的现实存在。这会使她过分担心人们将可能被抨击者诽谤,即使看起来并没有明显的冲突。一些INFJ喜欢写博客上通过网络作联结其他人的“桥梁”,并通过同样的方式为维系他自己的人际网络。如果她准备和别人吃饭,她会担心食物是否符合每一个人的口味,是否有食物过敏,价格是否是每一个人都承受的起。 INFJs sometimes speak in the "Royal We" -- meaning they feel qualified to say what the group needs or wants. They may take on the role of spokesperson for the entire group, and experience the group as an "entity" unto itself (rather than a collection of individuals). At the same time, INFJs typically know what each member of the group personally likes or dislikes. She knows who's married to whom, who's pregnant, which friend has the deadbeat brother-in-law, which cousin is the reformed alcoholic, and whose mother just died a month ago. She knows this data off the top of her head, and can rattle it off without a blink. (If she's reading this now, she probably thinks it's no big deal -- doesn't everybody do that?) If it's not this kind of information to do with relationships, then it might be about something similar, such as how others like their clothing, or their artwork, favorite colors, or whatever peccadillo is unique to that individual.At Christmas, INFJs are good at picking out suitable Christmas gifts and remembering which niece likes Dora and which niece is into Cinderella. INFJs can be sponges for such trivial data and habitually collect them (often unconsciously) so they can better "consider others" with the information. Sometimes they are more protective of a person's likes and dislikes than the person is themselves! INFJ有时候会说“我们”,这意味着他们认为自己有资格去说去团体的需要。他们可能会承担团体发言人的角色,并将团体作为一个“实体”去体验而不是个人的集合。同时,INFJ能够知道团体中成员喜欢什么不喜欢什么。她知道谁娶了谁,谁怀小孩儿了,谁有有个游手好闲的小舅子,谁的表兄在戒酒,以及谁的老妈在一个月前死了。这些信息仿佛浮在她头顶上,拿出来的时候不费吹灰之力。(如果INFJ碰巧也在读这篇文章,她会想这有什么大惊小怪呢,大家不是都这样么?)如果不是上述那类关系的信息,也可能是类似的信息,例如其他人喜欢的衣服,艺术作品,颜色,或那些独一无二的小过失。圣诞节来临时,INFJ是很擅长为其他人准备合适的礼物的,比如哪个侄女爱DORA或是爱CINDERELLA。INFJ像海绵一样吸收着这些琐碎的数据,并惯于积累他们,因此他们能够更好使用这些信息更好的关心别人。有时候,他们会有比其他人自己更强烈的意愿去保护其他人的喜好。 Moving through the personality pattern, we now come to the tertiary process. And it is precisely this process that often confuses people as to whether their preferences are for "F" or for "T," because it will be the opposite of whichever was their auxiliary. Take careful notice about which of the following descriptions fits you better. 说完性格范式,现在我们开始谈谈第三功能。而这个过程正是使人们困惑他们到底是“F”还是“T”,因为第三功能和辅助功能实际上是相反的。小心留意下面哪一种描述和你更符合。 In the INTJ pattern, the tertiary process is for introverted Feeling. Thus, they habitually consider importance and worth, clarify values, and decide whether something is of significance and worth standing up for. ("This doesn't match our priorities so we should refuse that assignment.") They have a strong sense of what's important to them or the project. Sometimes they can be seen as "selfish." 在INTJ模式下,第三功能是内向感觉。因此,他们惯于考虑什么是值得做的,价值清晰的,然后才觉得某事是否是重要并且值得坚持去做。(这和我们的主导功能不同,所以我们会拒绝这种指派)对于什么对他们自己或是项目来说是重要的,他们有强烈的感觉。有时候,他们看起来是“自私”的。 In the INFJ pattern, the tertiary process is for introverted Thinking. Thus, they habitually analyze. They devote energy to deciding whether something fits a framework or model, and will often clarify definitions to get more precision. ("Let's define our terms before we get more deeply involved in this conversation.") They enjoy categorizing, and figuring out underlying principles. Sometimes they can be seen as "critical." 在INFJ模式下,第三功能是内向思考。因此,他们擅长分析。他们投入精力分析某事是否符合框架或模型,并且将经常澄清定义以获得更高的准确性。(让我们定义使用的术语以便使我们的这次谈话更加深入)他们享受分类以及计算出潜在的原理。有时候他们看起来“挑剔” It's been my observation that naive clients sometimes find "truth" in their MBTI results, even when the descriptions don't fit perfectly. It's a touch of the Barnum Effect -- and is entirely understandable. After all, the assessment got so much right -- it seems unreasonably nitpicky to reject some of the details, especially when a misidentification around the auxiliary can usually be *stretchhhhhhhed* to fit the tertiary. Thus, it's extremely worthwhile to take a close look at both the auxiliary and tertiary processes to match how well they truly fit and match your real-life experience. Is your Feeling preference introverted or extraverted? Is your Thinking preference introverted or extraverted? 就我观察到的,有些没经验的客户,有时候会在他们的MBTI结果中发现“真理”,即使描述并不怎么符合。这是一个巴奴姆效应但完全可以理解。毕竟,测试结果有那么多是正确的,拒绝某些细节就显得不合情理,尤其是辅助功能和第三功能中有那么多似是而非的地方。因此,综合考察辅助功能和第三功能有多少是符合的,并且和自己的经验也符合是非常有价值的。你的感觉偏好是外向的还是内向的?你思考偏好是内向的还是外向的?
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