2008-03-07 18:39:38
来自: Latias
The Very Best of the Smiths的评论
当我洋洋洒洒地看完了WIKI上关于THE SMITHS的条目和MORRISSEY官网TRUE-TO-YOU.NET之后，我才知道，BLUR那真TMD叫友好分手。
THE SMITHS磕磕绊绊走过了八十年代末，影响了包括BLUR、SUEDE、OASIS在内一干的BRIPOP乐队。然而在乐队活跃的5年时间中，以及87年解散到现在的20年时间中，纷争从来没有停止。
In a 1984 interview Morrissey stated, "I decided [to call ourselves The Smiths] because it was the most ordinary name, and I think it's time that the ordinary folk of the world showed their faces." The band also considered the names Smiths Family and Smithdom before settling on The Smiths.
1984年，MORRISSEY在接受采访时宣布决定给乐队起名为THE SMITHS，因为这个最普通的名字代表最普通的音乐向世界展示它们自己的时间到了。在此之前，他们还曾考虑过诸如SMITHS FAMILY和SMITHDOM。
于是这支带着MORRISSEY死活不改特性歌词和MARR旋律的乐队就这么上路了。
Studio albums
* The Smiths (1984), UK #2, US #150
* Meat Is Murder (1985), UK #1, US #110
* The Queen Is Dead (1986), UK #2, US #70
* Strangeways, Here We Come (1987), UK #2, US #55
Compilations and live albums
* Hatful of Hollow (1984), UK #7, US #n/a
* The World Won't Listen (1987), UK #2, not released in US
* Louder Than Bombs (1987), US #62, UK(Import) #38
* Rank (1988), live album UK #2, US #77
* Best I (1992), UK #1, US #139
* Best II (1992), UK #29, US did not chart
* Singles (1995), UK #5, US did not chart
* The Very Best of The Smiths (2001), UK #31, not released in US
带着不知道是幸福还是辛酸的许多个第二，乐队继续在争议和支持声中前进。
Rourke was fired from the band in early 1986 due to ongoing problems with heroin. He received notice of his dismissal via a Post-it note stuck to his car windscreen. It read, "Andy - you have left The Smiths. Goodbye and good luck, Morrissey." Rourke was temporarily replaced on bass by Craig Gannon, but was reinstated after only a fortnight.
1986年ROURKE被告知自己因为海洛因的问题而被乐队开除了。他在车上找到一张便条，上面写到：”ANDY，你已经被开除出THE SMITHS。再见，好运。MORRISSEY。“之后ROURKE暂时被CRAIG GANNON取代，但这仅仅持续了2个星期。
The breakdown in the relationship has been primarily attributed to Morrissey becoming annoyed by Marr's work with other artists and Marr growing frustrated by Morrissey's musical inflexibility. Marr in particular hated Morrissey's obsession with covering 1960s pop artists such as Twinkle and Cilla Black. Referring to the songs recorded in the band's last session together (B-sides for the "Girlfriend in a Coma" single, which preceded the album's release), Marr said, "I wrote 'I Keep Mine Hidden', but 'Work Is a Four-Letter Word' I hated. That was the last straw, really. I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs."
乐队关系的破裂最开始始于MORRISSEY对MARR总是与其他人一起工作感到的不爽和MARR对 MORRISSEY不变的音乐的不满日益滋长。MARR特别厌恶MORRISSEY对60年代流行音乐人的痴迷。MARR表示：”我写了‘I KEEP MINE HIDDE’，但我讨厌‘WORK IS A FOUR LETTER WORD’。这是最后一个了，真的。我不想再呆在一个表演CILLA BLACK歌曲的乐队中。“
之后他们走上了各自的道路。
The Smiths were reunited in court in 1996 to settle a royalties claim by Joyce against Morrissey and Marr, who had claimed the lion's share of the Smiths recording and performance royalties and allowed only ten percent each to Joyce and Rourke (composition royalties were not an issue, as Rourke and Joyce had never been credited as composers for the band).
1996年，他们在法庭重聚。因为版权分配的问题，JOYCE把MORRISSEY和MARR告上了法庭。
The singer later said, "The court case was a potted history of the life of The Smiths. Mike, talking constantly and saying nothing. Andy, unable to remember his own name. Johnny, trying to please everyone and consequently pleasing no one. And Morrissey under the scorching spotlight in the dock, being drilled. 'How dare you be successful?' 'How dare you move on?' To me, The Smiths were a beautiful thing and Johnny left it, and Mike has destroyed it."
MORRISSEY之后说：”这件案子是THE SMITHS历史中的污点。MIKE，总是很多废话；ANDY，连他自己是谁都忘了；JOHNNY，总想着怎么去恭维每个人却总是失败。而我，感觉像是在码头刺眼的聚光灯下被剥开，问‘你怎么敢成功’‘你怎么能继续前进？’对于我来说，THE SMITHS是一个很美好的回忆。但是JOHNNY离开了它，而MIKE毁了它。”
In late November 2005, while appearing on radio station BBC 6 Music, Mike Joyce claimed to be having financial problems, and said that he had resorted to selling rare band recordings on eBay. As a teaser, a few minutes of an unfinished instrumental track known as "The Click Track" was premiered on the show. Morrissey hit back at Joyce with a public statement shortly after, on the website true-to-you.net.
2005年11月底，JOYCE向BBC表示他现在陷入了经济困难。他已经得依靠在EBAY上贩卖THE SMITHS的唱片来赚钱了。对此，MORRISSEY在他的个人网站上给予了回击。
http://true-to-you.n
声明中逐一列举了MORRISSEY和MARR因为JOYCE的行为而导致的损失。
I don't make this statement in search of sympathy from anyone, but I wish that the people at MorrisseySoLow who support Joyce would at least get their facts right before they say anything. Even with his 10% share, Joyce was wealthy. Now, he is extremely wealthy.
What more does he want?
没有人，至少我，不能看出他们曾在一起共事5年。而且他们从事的是音乐是摇滚是艺术。他们在同一间录音室听同样的旋律出现在同样的画面中。曾经太脆弱挡不出现实汹涌的洪流。
Both Johnny Marr and Morrissey have repeatedly said in interviews that there is no way a reformation will ever take place. In 2005, VH1 attempted to get the band back together for a reunion on its Bands Reunited show. The show abandoned its attempt after its host Aamer Haleem was unsuccessful in his attempt to corner Morrissey before a show.
MARR和MORRISSEY不只一次的在采访中强调重建乐队是不可能的是。2005年，VH1尝试着想要乐队一起表演，但失败了。
To this day Morrissey refuses to reunite his old band, going as far as to say that he would “rather eat [his] own testicles than re-form The Smiths, and that’s saying something for a vegetarian.”In March 2006 Morrissey revealed that the Smiths were offered five million dollars to reunite for a performance at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival, which he turned down, saying, "No, because money doesn't come into it." He further explained, "It was a fantastic journey. And then it ended. I didn't feel we should have ended. I wanted to continue. [Marr] wanted to end it. And that was that."When asked why he would not reform with The Smiths, Morrissey responded “I feel as if I’ve worked very hard since the demise of the Smiths and the others haven’t, so why hand them attention that they haven’t earned? We are not friends, we don’t see each other. Why on earth would we be on a stage together?”
MORRISSEY 拒绝重建乐队。他甚至说“比起重建THE SMITHS，我宁愿把我的睾丸给吃了，这还是对一个素食主义者来说！”2006年3月，MORRISSEY透露THE SMITHS被邀请以5百万的价格在Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival上进行演出，但他拒绝了，并说那不是钱能说了算的。之后他进一步说到”那是一个美妙的旅程，但它结束了。我不认为我们应该结束但事实却是如此。MARR想了结了它，于是它就这么玩完了。“当被问到他为什么不重建THE SMITHS的时候，MORRISSEY回答道：”我想，在乐队解散后我仍那么拼命，但他们却不是这样。凭什么我要把我好不容易努力得到的名气拱手送给他们？我们又不是朋友，也不常常见面。我们干吗要站在同一个舞台上演出呢？”
In August 2007 it was reported Morrissey had turned down a near £40 million offer to reunite with Johnny Marr for a 50-date world tour in 2008 and 2009. The condition would only be that Morrissey would have to play the dates with Marr, meaning the deal could have gone ahead without Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke's participation.
2007年8月，据说MORRISSEY拒绝了一个接近4千万的邀请（邀请他与MARR做一个50天的巡演）。这仅仅是要求MORRISSEY和MARR一起演出，在尝试着把JOYCE和ROURKE也聚集在一起之前。
In an October 2007 interview on BBC Radio Five Live, Johnny Marr hinted at a potential reformation in the future, saying that "stranger things have happened so, you know, who knows?" Marr went on to say that "It's no biggy. Maybe we will in 10 or 15 years' time when we all need to for whatever reasons, but right now Morrissey is doing his thing and I'm doing mine, so that's the answer really." This is the first potential indication of a Smiths reunion from Marr, who previously has stated that reforming the band would be a bad idea.
2007年10月，在BBC一个采访中，MARR暗示乐队有重建的希望。他说“奇怪的事情已经发生了。谁知道呢？这没什么大不了的。也许10年15年之后我们不知道为什么又在一起了。但现在，MORRISSEY正在忙他的事，我也有我的活。现在只能这么说了。“这是第一个关于THE SMITHS重建的暗示。虽然之前MARR表示重建乐队并不是什么好主意。
这就是THE SMITHS。这个曾经走过无数争议却又影响了一个又一个摇滚青年的乐队。这就是那个曾经因为歌词死活不改的灰暗，冷幽默，讽刺而爬不上第一的乐队。这就是那个曾经因为某首歌被家长指责教孩子去偷东西的那个”不负责任“的乐队。这就是那个分手之后死活不认人的”没人性“的乐队。这就是那个BEATLES之后、THE WHO之后、JOY DIVISION之后、QUEEN之后，很多很多人之后 ，又一个四人的传奇。
Released June 4, 2001
Recorded 1983–1987
Genre Alternative rock
Length 78:34
Label WEA
1. "Panic"
2. "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side" (single version)
3. "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now"
4. "Ask" (single version)*
5. "Bigmouth Strikes Again"
6. "How Soon Is Now?" (album version)
7. "This Charming Man"
8. "What Difference Does It Make?"
9. "William, It Was Really Nothing"
10. "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others"
11. "Girlfriend in a Coma"
12. "Hand in Glove" (album version)
13. "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out"
14. "Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want"
15. "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" (album version)
16. "I Know It's Over"
17. "Sheila Take a Bow"
18. "I Started Something I Couldn't Finish"
19. "Still Ill"
20. "Shakespeare's Sister"
21. "Shoplifters of the World Unite"
22. "Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me" (single version)*
23. "Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before"
* Morrissey – vocals
* Johnny Marr – guitars, keyboard instruments, harmonica, mandolins, synthesized saxophone, string and flute arrangements
* Andy Rourke – bass guitar, cello on "Shakespeare's Sister"
* Mike Joyce – drums
* Craig Gannon – rhythm guitar on "Panic" and "Ask"
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The Very Best of the Smiths的评论
当我洋洋洒洒地看完了WIKI上关于THE SMITHS的条目和MORRISSEY官网TRUE-TO-YOU.NET之后，我才知道，BLUR那真TMD叫友好分手。
THE SMITHS磕磕绊绊走过了八十年代末，影响了包括BLUR、SUEDE、OASIS在内一干的BRIPOP乐队。然而在乐队活跃的5年时间中，以及87年解散到现在的20年时间中，纷争从来没有停止。
In a 1984 interview Morrissey stated, "I decided [to call ourselves The Smiths] because it was the most ordinary name, and I think it's time that the ordinary folk of the world showed their faces." The band also considered the names Smiths Family and Smithdom before settling on The Smiths.
1984年，MORRISSEY在接受采访时宣布决定给乐队起名为THE SMITHS，因为这个最普通的名字代表最普通的音乐向世界展示它们自己的时间到了。在此之前，他们还曾考虑过诸如SMITHS FAMILY和SMITHDOM。
于是这支带着MORRISSEY死活不改特性歌词和MARR旋律的乐队就这么上路了。
Studio albums
* The Smiths (1984), UK #2, US #150
* Meat Is Murder (1985), UK #1, US #110
* The Queen Is Dead (1986), UK #2, US #70
* Strangeways, Here We Come (1987), UK #2, US #55
Compilations and live albums
* Hatful of Hollow (1984), UK #7, US #n/a
* The World Won't Listen (1987), UK #2, not released in US
* Louder Than Bombs (1987), US #62, UK(Import) #38
* Rank (1988), live album UK #2, US #77
* Best I (1992), UK #1, US #139
* Best II (1992), UK #29, US did not chart
* Singles (1995), UK #5, US did not chart
* The Very Best of The Smiths (2001), UK #31, not released in US
带着不知道是幸福还是辛酸的许多个第二，乐队继续在争议和支持声中前进。
Rourke was fired from the band in early 1986 due to ongoing problems with heroin. He received notice of his dismissal via a Post-it note stuck to his car windscreen. It read, "Andy - you have left The Smiths. Goodbye and good luck, Morrissey." Rourke was temporarily replaced on bass by Craig Gannon, but was reinstated after only a fortnight.
1986年ROURKE被告知自己因为海洛因的问题而被乐队开除了。他在车上找到一张便条，上面写到：”ANDY，你已经被开除出THE SMITHS。再见，好运。MORRISSEY。“之后ROURKE暂时被CRAIG GANNON取代，但这仅仅持续了2个星期。
The breakdown in the relationship has been primarily attributed to Morrissey becoming annoyed by Marr's work with other artists and Marr growing frustrated by Morrissey's musical inflexibility. Marr in particular hated Morrissey's obsession with covering 1960s pop artists such as Twinkle and Cilla Black. Referring to the songs recorded in the band's last session together (B-sides for the "Girlfriend in a Coma" single, which preceded the album's release), Marr said, "I wrote 'I Keep Mine Hidden', but 'Work Is a Four-Letter Word' I hated. That was the last straw, really. I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs."
乐队关系的破裂最开始始于MORRISSEY对MARR总是与其他人一起工作感到的不爽和MARR对 MORRISSEY不变的音乐的不满日益滋长。MARR特别厌恶MORRISSEY对60年代流行音乐人的痴迷。MARR表示：”我写了‘I KEEP MINE HIDDE’，但我讨厌‘WORK IS A FOUR LETTER WORD’。这是最后一个了，真的。我不想再呆在一个表演CILLA BLACK歌曲的乐队中。“
之后他们走上了各自的道路。
The Smiths were reunited in court in 1996 to settle a royalties claim by Joyce against Morrissey and Marr, who had claimed the lion's share of the Smiths recording and performance royalties and allowed only ten percent each to Joyce and Rourke (composition royalties were not an issue, as Rourke and Joyce had never been credited as composers for the band).
1996年，他们在法庭重聚。因为版权分配的问题，JOYCE把MORRISSEY和MARR告上了法庭。
The singer later said, "The court case was a potted history of the life of The Smiths. Mike, talking constantly and saying nothing. Andy, unable to remember his own name. Johnny, trying to please everyone and consequently pleasing no one. And Morrissey under the scorching spotlight in the dock, being drilled. 'How dare you be successful?' 'How dare you move on?' To me, The Smiths were a beautiful thing and Johnny left it, and Mike has destroyed it."
MORRISSEY之后说：”这件案子是THE SMITHS历史中的污点。MIKE，总是很多废话；ANDY，连他自己是谁都忘了；JOHNNY，总想着怎么去恭维每个人却总是失败。而我，感觉像是在码头刺眼的聚光灯下被剥开，问‘你怎么敢成功’‘你怎么能继续前进？’对于我来说，THE SMITHS是一个很美好的回忆。但是JOHNNY离开了它，而MIKE毁了它。”
In late November 2005, while appearing on radio station BBC 6 Music, Mike Joyce claimed to be having financial problems, and said that he had resorted to selling rare band recordings on eBay. As a teaser, a few minutes of an unfinished instrumental track known as "The Click Track" was premiered on the show. Morrissey hit back at Joyce with a public statement shortly after, on the website true-to-you.net.
2005年11月底，JOYCE向BBC表示他现在陷入了经济困难。他已经得依靠在EBAY上贩卖THE SMITHS的唱片来赚钱了。对此，MORRISSEY在他的个人网站上给予了回击。
http://true-to-you.n
声明中逐一列举了MORRISSEY和MARR因为JOYCE的行为而导致的损失。
I don't make this statement in search of sympathy from anyone, but I wish that the people at MorrisseySoLow who support Joyce would at least get their facts right before they say anything. Even with his 10% share, Joyce was wealthy. Now, he is extremely wealthy.
What more does he want?
没有人，至少我，不能看出他们曾在一起共事5年。而且他们从事的是音乐是摇滚是艺术。他们在同一间录音室听同样的旋律出现在同样的画面中。曾经太脆弱挡不出现实汹涌的洪流。
Both Johnny Marr and Morrissey have repeatedly said in interviews that there is no way a reformation will ever take place. In 2005, VH1 attempted to get the band back together for a reunion on its Bands Reunited show. The show abandoned its attempt after its host Aamer Haleem was unsuccessful in his attempt to corner Morrissey before a show.
MARR和MORRISSEY不只一次的在采访中强调重建乐队是不可能的是。2005年，VH1尝试着想要乐队一起表演，但失败了。
To this day Morrissey refuses to reunite his old band, going as far as to say that he would “rather eat [his] own testicles than re-form The Smiths, and that’s saying something for a vegetarian.”In March 2006 Morrissey revealed that the Smiths were offered five million dollars to reunite for a performance at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival, which he turned down, saying, "No, because money doesn't come into it." He further explained, "It was a fantastic journey. And then it ended. I didn't feel we should have ended. I wanted to continue. [Marr] wanted to end it. And that was that."When asked why he would not reform with The Smiths, Morrissey responded “I feel as if I’ve worked very hard since the demise of the Smiths and the others haven’t, so why hand them attention that they haven’t earned? We are not friends, we don’t see each other. Why on earth would we be on a stage together?”
MORRISSEY 拒绝重建乐队。他甚至说“比起重建THE SMITHS，我宁愿把我的睾丸给吃了，这还是对一个素食主义者来说！”2006年3月，MORRISSEY透露THE SMITHS被邀请以5百万的价格在Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival上进行演出，但他拒绝了，并说那不是钱能说了算的。之后他进一步说到”那是一个美妙的旅程，但它结束了。我不认为我们应该结束但事实却是如此。MARR想了结了它，于是它就这么玩完了。“当被问到他为什么不重建THE SMITHS的时候，MORRISSEY回答道：”我想，在乐队解散后我仍那么拼命，但他们却不是这样。凭什么我要把我好不容易努力得到的名气拱手送给他们？我们又不是朋友，也不常常见面。我们干吗要站在同一个舞台上演出呢？”
In August 2007 it was reported Morrissey had turned down a near £40 million offer to reunite with Johnny Marr for a 50-date world tour in 2008 and 2009. The condition would only be that Morrissey would have to play the dates with Marr, meaning the deal could have gone ahead without Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke's participation.
2007年8月，据说MORRISSEY拒绝了一个接近4千万的邀请（邀请他与MARR做一个50天的巡演）。这仅仅是要求MORRISSEY和MARR一起演出，在尝试着把JOYCE和ROURKE也聚集在一起之前。
In an October 2007 interview on BBC Radio Five Live, Johnny Marr hinted at a potential reformation in the future, saying that "stranger things have happened so, you know, who knows?" Marr went on to say that "It's no biggy. Maybe we will in 10 or 15 years' time when we all need to for whatever reasons, but right now Morrissey is doing his thing and I'm doing mine, so that's the answer really." This is the first potential indication of a Smiths reunion from Marr, who previously has stated that reforming the band would be a bad idea.
2007年10月，在BBC一个采访中，MARR暗示乐队有重建的希望。他说“奇怪的事情已经发生了。谁知道呢？这没什么大不了的。也许10年15年之后我们不知道为什么又在一起了。但现在，MORRISSEY正在忙他的事，我也有我的活。现在只能这么说了。“这是第一个关于THE SMITHS重建的暗示。虽然之前MARR表示重建乐队并不是什么好主意。
这就是THE SMITHS。这个曾经走过无数争议却又影响了一个又一个摇滚青年的乐队。这就是那个曾经因为歌词死活不改的灰暗，冷幽默，讽刺而爬不上第一的乐队。这就是那个曾经因为某首歌被家长指责教孩子去偷东西的那个”不负责任“的乐队。这就是那个分手之后死活不认人的”没人性“的乐队。这就是那个BEATLES之后、THE WHO之后、JOY DIVISION之后、QUEEN之后，很多很多人之后 ，又一个四人的传奇。
Released June 4, 2001
Recorded 1983–1987
Genre Alternative rock
Length 78:34
Label WEA
1. "Panic"
2. "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side" (single version)
3. "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now"
4. "Ask" (single version)*
5. "Bigmouth Strikes Again"
6. "How Soon Is Now?" (album version)
7. "This Charming Man"
8. "What Difference Does It Make?"
9. "William, It Was Really Nothing"
10. "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others"
11. "Girlfriend in a Coma"
12. "Hand in Glove" (album version)
13. "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out"
14. "Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want"
15. "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" (album version)
16. "I Know It's Over"
17. "Sheila Take a Bow"
18. "I Started Something I Couldn't Finish"
19. "Still Ill"
20. "Shakespeare's Sister"
21. "Shoplifters of the World Unite"
22. "Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me" (single version)*
23. "Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before"
* Morrissey – vocals
* Johnny Marr – guitars, keyboard instruments, harmonica, mandolins, synthesized saxophone, string and flute arrangements
* Andy Rourke – bass guitar, cello on "Shakespeare's Sister"
* Mike Joyce – drums
* Craig Gannon – rhythm guitar on "Panic" and "Ask"
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The Very Best of the Smiths
表演者: The Smiths
唱片数: 1
条型码: 0685738894826
发行时间: 2001
唱片名: The Very Best of the Smiths
版本特性: Import Original recording remastered
出版者: Wea International
介质: Audio CD
2008-03-09 12:45:05 本多┋人类不宜飞行
比起重建THE SMITHS，我宁愿把我的睾丸给吃了，这还是对一个素食主义者来说！别他妈重建 MOZ是正确的
原来他们只出过四张专辑！不过真不好收