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2007-06-02 22:09:04 来自: Damon(GRD2也不错)
第一部 (原文)
"I'm pretty sure most people are gonna not believe this at first, but major plot leaks from a reliable source, whether you believe them or not. The reliable source is someone who works somehow related to the production of the show, and when the producers agreed to the deal for the show to end in 2010, they had to draw up a general plan for the show until then. Logically you would assume only a few people would have access to this, but in fact these facts came across a lot of people. So somewhere in that line of people came the reliable source, and here is me relaying it. I promise I'm not the source and i promise I'm not changing anything i've heard.
If this info has gotten to me, and consequently to you, whoever's reading, then obviously the producers will find out and may change things. I don't know. But this is just what I've found out and this is coming straight out of the plot outline the producers needed to draw up.
- There will be 3 "flash-forward" episodes 2008 season, 3 "flashforward episodes 2009 season (including its finale), and 10 of the 16 episodes in the 2010 season will be flashforwards.
- The 2008 season will begin with a "New character"-centric episode. All we konw is "new character"
- 2008 season premiere has partially been filmed already. The rescue does not occur by helicopter. They meet the ship on shore and the "rescuers" come on smaller boats.
- In the 2008 season premiere, during the episode a timespan of 2 days elapses, in which the "rescuers" get the Losties ready to leave.
- In the 2008 season premiere, the "rescuers" take body count of all who are buried on the beach or have died on the island, and Hurley will give brief synopsis of dead characters in monologue with flashbacks
- The Temple is a building, but mostly underground and is the first major set to be built for next season. Will include many "technological" props, such as monitors and computer switchboards.
- Sayyid is killed at the end of the Season Premiere as he discovers that the "rescuers" are Dharma Initiative. Naveen Andrews will continue to reprise his role throughout the remainder of the series, possibly in flashbacks. (Or maybe he doesn't really die, who knows)
- The character of Hurley will die during course of 2009 season. Unknown why or how, and whether his actor will come back for flashbacks.
(Here's where the info is kinda all over the place)
- Polar bears appear in the 2nd episode of the 2008 season
- Desmond gets out of the hatch in the 2008 season premiere
- Locke does not return to the show until severeal episodes into the 2008 season
第二部 (原文)
Explanation that is revealed near the end of the 2008 season: Dharma Initiative has created a "time door". One end of the door exists in present time in Antarctica. The other end of the door is the Island. However, the Island exists in the "time bubble" in which it remains in the past. Everytime someone (Desmond) pressed the switch in the Hatch, the Island was reset further back in its own time, while the present continued onward.
By nearly not pressing it, it opened the time bubble slightly, and Oceanic went through the bubble and crashed into the Island. When the hatch exploded, the time bubble was released, and accelerated into the present. It is Jack, Jin, and Desmond who come upon this knowledge by the leader of the Dharma Initiative in the Season Finale of 2008.
- 2009 season opens with a Ben-centric episode.
- 2009 season focuses on time travel, and several times characters will return to the "past" and revisit scenes from previous episodes.
- Michael will return to the cast in 2009. Unknown if Walt will.
- Smoke monster is defeated in 2009 season.
- Matrix-like storyline is presented in 2009 season, where "present" may actually be another time bubble. Dharma Initiative seeks to find an even farther "future".
- Jack discovers sibling relationship to Claire in 2009 season.
- 1/2 of the Survivors are "rescued" in 15th episode 2009, but time machine explodes. They are sent into a parallel time bubble which is a prison in a snow-bound place. Sun, Sawyer, Claire, Ben, and apparent new characters Rex and Toasty (code names for characters they haven't thought of yet?) are among the stranded.
- Juliet ambiguously dies in 2009 Season Finale.
- Dharma Initiative Conspiracy is revealed in 2009 Season Finale. Christian Shephard, Mr. Paik, Charles Widmore, and Richard Malkin are named as some of the members of the Dharma Initiative. Oceanic was intended to fly into different "time bubble", but when Desmond failed to press the button in the "island time bubble", Oceanic was caught between two time bubbles and crashed into the "island time bubble", which was deserted by the Dharma Iniative after Ben took it over.
The Operation was intended to place loved ones/friends of benefactors of the Dharma Initiative in a time bubble where they would be safe from an oncoming world catastrophe. The passengers of Oceanic were considered thsoe family/friends that would not willingly go through with a passage through the "time door" in Dharma Inititive headaquarters in Antarctica, therefore were brought together on Oceanic in order to safely land them on a new "Paradise" Island. However, the Operation failed when Desmond's mistake caused all incoming 'deliveries" to the "Paradise" Island to catastrophically land on the Island the survivors are now on. The 2009 Season Finale ends with Dharma showing the survivors the "Paradise Island", but once there, they realize it is desolate, and hundreds are inexplicably dead on this island. Jack finds his own dead body on this island.
第三部(原文)
-The 2010 Season Finale begins with the rescue of the survivors stranded in the Dharma "Prison bubble". All survivors/Dharma are returned to the original island by the 3rd episode.
- There is no more time travel (between time bubbles) in 2010 season after the Season Premiere. Focus is on getting rebuilding the "door" in order to be transported back to the present
- New faction of survivors/Dharma are led by Locke and another character simply named Black-suit (again, maybe a code name for an as of now unknown character), in an attempt to not allow anyone to leave the island in 2010 season.
- Yunjun Kim will relatively be absent for most of the 2010 season. No details on whether she is killed or not. Jin, however, is mentioned throughout the details of the 2010 season.
- A new smoke monster is built in the 2010 season.
- Juliet returns in 5th episode in 2010 season., only to die at hands of Sawyer in order to save everyone from new smoke monster
- Mikhail (yes, some-freaking-how) is mentioned as setting off a bomb that causes the "good" group of people to be split up on the Island in 2010 season.
- Ben is killed by Locke in 9th episode of 2010 season, titled "Hunger of Memory".
- The series finale comprises a final confrontation between Jack and Locke in a new "hatch".
- Here is the list of people "transported" to present time at the end of the 2010 season finale: Ballerina (?), Tap-Dancer (?), Kate (we know her), Sawyer (anotehr one we know), Musky (?), Jin (know him), Jack (yay), Claire (what about her baby?), and someone simply named Insert (yeah, Insert).
- Many, many names for deaths in series finale, here are some interesting ones: Catholic, Tape, Cus-cus, and Doc. Lets look back on this years from now and figure out who they were referring to.
- Among the names that we do know for death in series finale, are Desmond and Penelope (I don't know how the heck she gets on the island).
- Series finale ends with survivors in Dharma headquarters. They are asked to keep a vow of silence, and in turn are promised a return to the "Paradise Island" once it is ready. The survivors are again transported back in time, to when Oceanic crashed. The crash now actually occurs in present time waters, and unbeknownst to the passengers, Jack and the others are from the future (past, whatever the hell they're from). Oceanic crashes, but all the passengers survive
第四部 (原文)
When returned home, all the passengers become media icons. However, Jin is now with a Sun who does not know about what happened on the island, and must reconcile with her, without those experiences he had on the island. Kate is immediately brought into custody, but her charges are lessened due to the circumstances, and she has saved Boone's life in this plane crash. Claire gives birth to her baby at the end (possibly her "island" baby has died?). Months go by and those who were part of the series' events are not contacted by Dharma. They meet together and want to just let it go. Some want to try to find the Dharma Initiative. However, Dharma warned them that if they tried to find them, they would be killed.
Sawyer is killed in a "random" shooting. Jack is convinced it is Dharma behind it. Kate disobeys are parole officer and goes with Jack to confront Sun's father. There they meet Christian Shephard, supposedly from some kind of future or something. Christian explains that the Dharma Initiative has failed and was completely destroyed. Christian refuses to kill Jack and Kate and lets them go. Kate cannot return to the public because she is a fugitive. Jack has killed Sun's father as well. They retreat to an island in the Pacific and Lost ends with them sitting on a beach there.
So that's Lost for you. Just for discussion's sake, I did make up ONE fact. Try to guess what it is. And trust me, this is all from what I explained above. I have changed nothing about the facts. I left out some unimportant ones that had to do with like, production and ordering and planning stuff. But yeah, that's the most I squeezed out of the plot. And if you don't believe this, come back to this exact topic next February, and see if I'm right. I really don't care if people believe it or not, I was just so psyched when I heard this, I wanted to hear what other people thought."
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2007-06-02 22:09:45
Damon (GRD2也不错)
转载的,还是不要看中文了,看了要吐3升血了,为了大家好
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2007-06-02 22:13:46
方×子
千万别为我好,我就要吐!
好心人翻译一下吧,让我吐个痛快。。。
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2007-06-02 23:02:58
菜兔子
请谁翻译一下吧,我看到的是说sayid在08年要死掉了。
胖子hugo在09年要死掉了。
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2007-06-03 00:11:52
Sunny Yen
第一部:
“我十分确定,大多数人开始不会相信,不过(这的确是)来自一个可靠来源的主要剧透,不管你是否相信。可靠来源是在剧的制作单位工作的一些人。当制作人同意了2010年结束全剧的时候,他们必须为全剧到2010年剧情发展画出一个大致框架。你可能会认为只有少数人能接触到这个(剧情发展框架),不过实际上(下面)这些事实来自很多人(的贡献)。可靠来源就在这些人中,我只是传话。我发誓我不是那个消息来源,我发誓对于我所听到的任何事我都没作改动。”
如果这些信息我已经了解,现在你也知道了,那么制作人们当然会知道,也就会作一些改动(以使我的剧透不准确)。我不知道(这会不会发生)。不过这是我刚刚发现的,直接从制作人们画出的剧情发展框架中得来的。
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2007-06-03 09:31:15
Sunny Yen
1.2008季会有3集flash-forward,2009季有3集,2010季的16集中有10集都是flash-forward
2.2008季第一集以一个“新角色”为中心。(目前)只知道是“新角色”。
3.2008季第一集已经拍摄了一部分。营救没有用直升机。他们见到了一艘大般,“营救者”乘小艇上岛。
4.2008季第一集中表现了两天中发生的故事,“营救者”们在这两天中使幸存者们为离开作好了准备。
5.在2008季第一集中,“营救者”们清点了死在岛上的人数。Hurley会通过独白,在flashback中简介这些角色。
6.The Temple(庙宇)是一个大部分在地下的建筑,是为下一季搭建的每一个主要场景。期中有很多“技术类”道具,如显示屏、电脑控制台等等。
7.Sayid在2008季第一集末尾被杀,因为他发现了“营救者们”是Dharma Initiative。(扮演Sayid的演员)会在该季中继续出现,可能是通过flashbacks(不过也可能并没有真死,谁知道呢)。
9.Hurley会在2009季中死去。现在还不知道死的原因和方式,以及是否会通过flashbacks再次出现。
(下面这些是到处都在传的啦)
10.北极熊会在2008季的第2集出现
11.Desmond会在2008季第一集中从hatch中出来(就是第三季末尾他和Charlie进入的那个水下的)
12.Locke要直到2008季开始几集后才再次出现。
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2007-06-03 10:21:23
Sunny Yen
第二部
在2008季接近末尾时给出的解释:Dharma Initiative创造了一个“时间门”。门的一头在现在时间的南极洲,另一头就是那个岛。不过岛存在于一个持续留存在过去时间中的“时间泡泡”中。每次当有人(Desmond)按下按钮时,岛上的时间就会再一次往更远的过去回调,而我们的现实世界的时间一直在正常延续。
有一次“几几乎没有按下按钮”,时间泡泡就稍微打开了一点小缝,Oceanic的航班就进入了泡泡,落到了岛上。那个(按钮的)hatch炸掉时,时间泡泡得到了释放,并加速来到了当前的时间中。在2008季大结局中,Jack, Jin和Desmond从Dharma的领导者那里得到了这个知识。
13.2009季的第一集以Ben为中心
14.2009季将聚集在时间旅行上。有几次角色们将回到“过去”并访问以前出现过的场景。
15.Michael会在2009季中回来。不知道Walt会不会。
16.黑烟怪物在2009季中被打败。
17.2009季将表现“黑客帝国式的”故事,其中的“现在时间”可能实际上只是另一个时间泡泡。Dharma在试图找出一个更远的“未来”。
18.Jack在2009季中发现了和Claire的兄妹关系。
19.幸存者中的一半在2009季第15集得到了“营救”,但是时间机器爆炸了。他们进入了一个平行时间泡,是一个大雪包围的监狱。Sun, Sawyer, Claire, Ben, 和新角色Rex和Toasty(尚未出现的人物的代号?)在流落到监狱的人之中。
20.Juliet在2009季大结局中可疑地死去。
21.Dharma的阴谋在2009季大结局中得到了揭露。Christian Shephard(Jack的老爹), Mr. Paik(Sun的老爹,韩国大财团老板), Charles Widmore(Desmond女友Penny的老爹), Richard Malkin(招募Ben成为others的不会变老的那位)据称是Dharma Initiative的成员。Oceanic的航班本来是要飞入另外一个“时间泡泡”,不过当Desmond没能及时按下“岛上时间泡”中的按钮时,航班被卡在两个时间泡中间,并失事落入了“岛上时间泡”中。而这个“岛上时间泡”早在Ben造反占领后就被Dharma Iniative放弃了。
本来的计划是把Dharma Initiative的捐助人们的亲人/朋友放到一个安全的时间泡中,以使他们躲过整个世界正在面临的一劫。Oceanic航班上的乘客都是那些不会自愿通过Dharma南极总部的“时间门”安全进入一个“天堂”岛的亲人/朋友。不过,整个计划由于Desmond的错误而失败,去往“天堂”岛途中的“货物”灾难性地落在了现在这个岛上。在2009季大结局中,Dharma让幸存者们看了“天堂岛”,不过到了那里他们才发现那里荒无人烟,成百上千人已在那里莫明其妙地死去。Jack在这个岛上发现了自己的尸体。
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2007-06-03 12:45:42
菜兔子
倒,吐血倒是不至于,但也太莫名其妙了吧!
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2007-06-03 13:11:33
方×子
这事太复杂了。。。可能是最复杂的美剧了。。。
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2007-06-03 13:33:12
evian
混乱中~~~
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2007-06-03 13:54:27
Sunny Yen
第三部
22.2010季首播以营救流落到“监狱时间泡”的幸存者开始。到第3集为止他们和Dharma的人都回到了原岛上。
23.在首播后,其余的集中不再有(在不同时间泡之间)时间旅行的情节。剧情回到为回到现在时间而重建“时间门”的努力上。
24.出现一个新的由Locke和一个叫做Black-suit(黑西装)的人领导的小组,努力争取不让任何人在2010季内离开岛。
25.Yunjun Kim(Sun的扮演者)在2010季中大多数集中都不会出现。不知道她是否被杀。不过Jin在2010的整季的很多细节中都有出现。
26.2010季中会建立一个新的黑烟怪物。
27.Juliet在2010季第5集中再度出现,只为死在Sawyer手中。Sawyer杀她是为了大家不受黑烟怪物伤害。
28.有提到Mikhail(死不了的俄国佬)引爆了一颗炸弹,使得“好人”们在2010季中散落到岛上各处。
29.Ben在2010季第9集中被Locke杀死,那集的剧名为"Hunger of Memory"(记忆的饥饿?)
30.全剧大结局中有Jack和Locke在一个新"hatch"中对质的情节。
31.在2010季大结局中末尾被“运输”到现在时间的人名单:Ballerina (?), Tap-Dancer (?), Kate (这个认识), Sawyer (又一个认识的), Musky (?), Jin (认识), Jack (耶!), Claire (孩子呢?), 和一个叫做Insert的 (yeah, Insert).
32.在全剧大结局中死了很多人,下面是一部分有趣的:Catholic(天主教), Tape(带子), Cus-cus, and Doc(医生?).过几年再回头看些名字到底都指谁吧。
33.我们知道会在全剧大结局中死去的人物中,有Desmond及其女友Penelope(不知道她是怎么到岛上的)
34.2010季大结局以幸存者们在Dharma总部中结束。Dharma要求他们发誓保持秘密,以换得当“天堂岛”弄好后回到那里的许诺。幸存者们再次被运回到飞机失事的时刻,乘客们毫不知情,Jack和其它人来自未来(或者过去之类的什么鬼地方)。航班坠落,不过所有乘客都活了下来。
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2007-06-03 16:31:31
菜兔子
等sunny的第四部分翻译……
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2007-06-03 17:22:15
Sunny Yen
第四部
回家以后,所有的乘客都成了媒体偶像。然而,现在和Jin在一起的这个Sun一点都不知道岛上发生过的事情,Jin还必须与她修复关系,而且是在没有与她在岛上(同生死,共患难)的经历的条件下。Kate立即遭到逮捕,不过考虑到发生过的事情,减轻了对她的指控--她在飞机失事中救了Boone的命。Claire在最后生下了她的孩子(是不是在“岛上”生的孩子死了?)。几个月过去了,Dharma都没有和故事中的人物联系过。他们聚在一起,(最后决定)就这么算了吧。有些人想去想办法找到Dharma Initiative。不过Dharma警告了他们:如果他们试图找到Dharma,就会把他们杀死。
Sawyer在一次“偶然”枪击事件中被杀。Jack确信这肯定是Dharma搞的鬼。Kate违背了假释警官的命令,和Jack一起去找 Sun的老爸。在那里他们遇到了Jack老爸,应该是来自从某种未来之类的地方。Jack爹告诉他们Dharma Initiative失败了,完全毁掉了。Jack爹拒绝杀掉Jack和Kate,放他们走了。Kate不能再回到公众视野中,因为她又成了个逃犯(因为违反假释禁令)。Jack杀了Sun的老爹。他们逃到了太平洋中的一个岛上,全剧以他们两人坐在那里的一个沙滩上而结束。
这就是Lost的故事。为了给大家留个讨论的话题,我(在上述剧透中)编造了一个谎言。猜猜是哪个吧。相信我,所有这些都来自我一开始解释的那个可靠来源,对于(了解到的)事实没有作任何更改。有些不重要的东西我就没讲。反正这就是我能从剧情挤出的全部了。如果你不信的话,明年2月份再回到这个贴来,看看我说的到底对不对。其实大家信不信我根本不管,我只是知道这个后就太兴奋了,想听听别人对这个的看法。
(完)
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2007-06-03 18:20:59
Sunny Yen
如果上面说的都是真的,那么好象2010年会有两个大结局:2010当季结局,当季结束后会再来一个全剧总的大结局。
另外,说机上乘客都和Dharma有间接关系,不知道象Lock, Rose & Bernard, Mr.Eko, Anna Lucia等等众多人物的家人或朋友是怎么和Dharma联上的....
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2007-06-03 18:49:00
豆地主
Sayid 啊
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2007-06-03 19:03:04
吴韵沉风·火星 (四十年来家国,三千里地山河)
这个看上去很靠谱,感觉……
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2007-06-03 19:08:13
菜兔子
妈的!
sayid那么快就要消失了!
一个英雄一样的人物!
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2007-06-03 19:14:06
你神经
即使是瞎编的 ,编的也不错
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2007-06-03 20:21:47
Sunny Yen
其实即使这些属实,编剧还是有很大的回旋空间的。任何角色的死亡计划都可以随时调整,因为剧情可以在过去、现在、未来中跳来跳去,而发生过的事情也可以完全改变。也就是说,死去的人也可以根本没死,因为过去已经随着现在和未来的改变而发生了相应改变。就象Jack老爸那样。
把刚刚结束的第3季大结局放到这个框架下面,还是比较make sense的,至少在flash-forward中死去的那个就可以很合理地推断为Sawyer;Kate是偷偷跑出来见Jack,还想着不能被假释官发现;以后就是两人决定去找Dharma算帐,为Sawyer的死....
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2007-06-03 20:46:31
kevin72
那就是说第3季大结局的flash-forward说的是最终大结局的事情了,总觉得早了点
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2007-06-03 21:33:38
H
SAYID!!!!!!
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2007-06-03 22:30:53
觅谜
感谢Sunny的辛苦翻译。
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2007-06-03 22:46:39
菜兔子
是啊,感觉sunny呢!
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2007-06-04 00:26:46
星星
谢谢sunny了
我觉得这个剧透解决了我的最大的疑惑
那就是为什么飞机上的人或多或少都有点儿关系
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2007-06-04 10:35:36
菜兔子
错了,是感谢sunny……
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2007-06-04 10:56:28
静默醒醒
太离谱了吧有点...
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2007-06-05 10:20:27
Passer
2007-06-04 10:56:28 chara
太离谱了吧有点...
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LOST一开始就没有靠谱过,呵呵,不过我很喜欢!~~
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2007-06-05 14:02:42
jas
没敢细看...
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太晕了……
把原来已经乱七八糟的东西搞得更乱七八糟……
总结:一旦和时间这个东西扯上关系,就完了……科学角度的漏洞肯定会很多很多……
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2007-06-07 12:21:22
H
2007-06-04 10:56:28 chara
太离谱了吧有点...
就好LOST这一口儿
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2007-06-07 14:58:55
τā是我崇拜的對象
让剧情来的更凶猛些吧~~~越不靠谱越猛烈啊
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哈哈,林子大了什么鸟都有,人气多了什么话都有。
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2007-06-26 13:39:22
ddbrandy
我得妈呀,完全搞晕了!不过还是期待ing
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2007-07-07 00:35:10
丁丁/愿坦途涌现。 (停下吧。)
SAYID。。。
SAWYER。。。
老娘怒了!
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2007-07-07 21:22:46
CX你好再见
Jack怎么还不死呢。。。。
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2007-07-21 11:40:55
遛狗 (因众知因,不再使用“我说”)
哈哈。如要到2010年才结束,那也太长了吧。
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2007-07-22 12:07:22
藏书人 (在希望的田野上)
嗯嗯,看的好爽,在伊甸园也有
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2007-07-25 23:59:53
低 (蓝领小雪生)
我的天,没见过哪个聚集能拍成这样的。。。。。。。。
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2007-07-31 13:35:51
张公子 (非官方偏见)
可以想象时间还有泡泡,但时间泡泡是个什么东东?
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2007-08-25 21:49:31
Mrs. M (雷小白你去哪儿啦)
阿。。。无语凝噎。。
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2007-08-26 14:54:18
水块
有点象 多来A梦 了
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2007-08-31 17:45:45
鶉之奔奔 (猹,從吾所好。)
在3季开始之前 买本 时间简史 看看先
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2008-02-16 16:34:40
不洗头做事没精神
总结:一旦和时间这个东西扯上关系,就完了……科学角度的漏洞肯定会很多很多……
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应该是所有不合理都变合理了吧
编剧是从哪个星球还是空间来的啊~
侃的太晕菜了
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2008-02-16 17:44:51
shizuka
别说英文了,中文的我看着都晕。。。
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2008-02-16 23:46:26
小深刻
果然是剧透慎入
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2008-02-17 16:14:07
紫色心情 (玩签名?显得没诚意:))
kao,也太强了吧,看来十有八九是真的,假是绝对编不到这种程度的。不过,本来就乱七八糟的剧情,变得更加乱七八糟了。这就是Lost的魅力吧!
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2008-02-18 11:47:16
suki
LOST由科幻片马上要转变成恐怖片了………………
SAYID肯定是签约到期,导演不得不让他撤退……
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2008-02-18 14:38:15
青痕
别说是英文的了,中文的我都看的头晕,还是慢慢看剧集自己理解吧
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2008-02-18 18:01:41
Eric
不过最后那点他们回到岛上坐在沙滩上伴这夕阳,还是不错的~
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2008-02-19 11:13:57
daiiing
也就是说这个小岛处在一个平行世界中?
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2008-02-19 21:39:00
JuneJuneSoul (Not fabulous enough.)
现在的剧透也太多了。
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2008-02-23 05:54:17
寂寞如雪
目前看来还比较靠谱~
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